Brexit is fast becoming a disaster

Oh yes!

I didn’t re read it

It may have been my whizzing typing though.

What I meant to say was (in a fuller explanation)

The cabinet is split over whether to issue visas for foreign nationals to come to fill the hundreds of thousands of vacancies which are at present causing severe difficulties in many areas. However some of the cabinet are baulking at the idea because it would present poor optics, particularly having to admit that brexit has caused the difficulties we are experiencing.

Not all HGV drivers are created equal....

To drive a fuel tanker you need an ADR licence. Anybody know if drivers from the forces hold this kind of licence?

A victim of predictive text/autocorrect?
I can’t see this Whitewave
Cabinet split on visas because it hold be poor optics.

GrannyGravy13

Oops prematurely posted.

The Army in particular is exceedingly good at logistics as are the other services.

Ah the sunlit uplands...

Oops prematurely posted.

The Army in particular is exceedingly good at logistics as are the other services.

How many military personnel have HGV licenses? If the situation escalates they could be deployed as drivers to plug the gap in the short term.

Cabinet split on visas because it hold be poor optics.

Grant Shapps is telling us that the shortage of HGV drivers has nothing to do with Brexit because there is a shortage in EU countries as well. Now he is apparently open to the idea of issuing temporary visas to EU drivers. It's just taken for granted then that those drivers would want to return to the UK. Why would they? We create a so called hostile environment for immigrants, we tell them that they are not welcome but now we're in a pickle so we'll just tell them to come back. The arrogance!

Brexit + Covid + Energy cost + Labour shortages are likely to cause inflation and interest rates to rise quickly.
Is there any good news on the economy?.

Get them on their bikes, eh?

p.s. I'm economically inactive and aged between 16 and 64. What do you suggest for me, potato picking in Lincolnshire?

Checking up on unemployment figures which is not straightforward it seems there are 1.5m unemployed plus nearly 9m “economically inactive” (not seeking work) in the 16 - 64yr age group.

That seems an awful lot of working age people!.

Germany's problems are due to an aging population and changes in technology. so they introduced a system for attracting more immigrants which has not been as successful as hoped due to Covid.

The UK's problems are due to a misguided government and population who think that Johnny Foreigner is out to get their job, so we have to stop them coming here, so let's pull up the drawbridge. Covid? Well, nobody could see that coming, its not our fault.

Katie59

Labour shortages in Germany and no doubt other nations quite likely due to Covid restrictions.
www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/german-labour-chief-says-germany-needs-400000-skilled-immigrants-yearly-to-tackle-skilled-workers-shortage/

Yes the labour shortage is beginning to spread, not just in Europe.

Labour shortages in Germany and no doubt other nations quite likely due to Covid restrictions.
www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/german-labour-chief-says-germany-needs-400000-skilled-immigrants-yearly-to-tackle-skilled-workers-shortage/

GrannyGravy13

One of our local University Hospitals is busy (non-Covid), it is trying to clear some of the backlog of the last eighteen months.

Patients are presenting later at GP’s (if they can actually get an appointment) hence by the time they get to see a hospital doctor their conditions are more advanced/serious.

Every hospital is trying to clear the backlog. That is their job, but there is little that they can do if the staff shortage is so severe that the patients in hospital are deemed unsafe.

Cuts and Brexit

We are the only country in Europe suffering such difficulties.

I see the government is still trying to flog the pandemic as the cause.

Funny I thought that the pandemic was world wide not just in U.K.

One of our local University Hospitals is busy (non-Covid), it is trying to clear some of the backlog of the last eighteen months.

Patients are presenting later at GP’s (if they can actually get an appointment) hence by the time they get to see a hospital doctor their conditions are more advanced/serious.

NotSpaghetti

The petrol shortage is apparently because we don't have enough tanker drivers.

Yes it is, there is not a petrol/diesel shortage. It is the lack of HGV drivers which has necessitated some filling stations to close temporarily.

The Europeans are telling the truth. There isn’t a single other country in Europe who is suffering from petrol and HGV driver shortage

Urmstongran

Seen the backlog of cases the NHS has WWmk2? So many.
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Yes if you lived here near Brighton you would be watching and reading that the consultants have announced that due to lack of staff etc patients are no longer safe in the wards and elective surgery must be moved elsewhere as clinicians can no longer cope.

Reason?

Tory cuts over the past 10 years compounded by clinicians and hospital staff returning to the EU. - Brexit.

I don’t think seasonal fruit pickers claimed UC, they mainly sent money home and moved around to other countries seasonally. Now, no longer welcome here they are staying away.

Just when is Johnson proposing to raise the minimum wage and force employers to pay more?

Seen the backlog of cases the NHS has WWmk2? So many.
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And Boris is saying that these unskilled workers ought to be paid more. Funny that someone thinks they can own a business, pay poor wages then think the taxpayer (us) should top up those wages with UC.

Begs the question ‘should some of these employers even be running a business in the first place?’.

Urmstongran

I’m sure there was a thread recently that discussed the shortage of HGV drivers? Nothing to do with Brexit but a change in the tax code for lorry drivers which saw the numbers plummet. And blaming Brexit for the NHS shortages in the middle of a pandemic when anyone but Covid was hardly treated. That is stretching reality to silliness. Brexit is such a handy peg isn’t it?

For goodness sake Urmstongran. Of course, Brexit has been responsible for many HGV drivers returning to their home countries. I don't even understand your thinking about the NHS. Plenty of people have been treated for non-Covid related conditions during the pandemic and staff have been working flat out. Again, a number of EU staff have returned home or decided not to come in the first place.