Birthing People - inclusive or offensive?

It’s inclusive. Trans men and non binary people can give birth too.

Bloody ridiculous.

Hear hear.
Too silly to even get worked up about! But ???anyway

Not inclusive towards women but they have never really counted.

AmberSpyglass

It’s inclusive. Trans men and non binary people can give birth too.

Is that because they have ovaries and a womb?

In which case their sex is female.

If they said "and" it would make such a difference.
Women "and" birthing people.
Who could object to that?

I always think of midwives and doulas being birthing people.

Ilovecheese

If they said "and" it would make such a difference.
Women "and" birthing people.
Who could object to that?

Good thinking.

absolutely rediculous. Only women can have babies, end of!!!

Offensive

Offensive. It’s another means of erasing women. It also denigrates adoptive parents who adopt children - they haven’t given birth to them but they are the child’s mother/father. People can call themselves what they want but don’t include me, thank you very much.

Ilovecheese

If they said "and" it would make such a difference.
Women "and" birthing people.
Who could object to that?

Good call ?

Only women can give birth, fact.

Yep I m in agreement with the rest of posters you can’t give birth without a womb whatever words you use

SueDonim

Offensive. It’s another means of erasing women. It also denigrates adoptive parents who adopt children - they haven’t given birth to them but they are the child’s mother/father. People can call themselves what they want but don’t include me, thank you very much.

Excellent point! It’s not really strange that these words are to benefit the male sex.
If they’re human and give birth, they’re female. What they call themselves is their business, but they shouldn’t try to interfere with the word ‘mothers’ -by birth or by adoption just because it doesn’t suit them.

We just have to keep fighting back every time we read/hear/ see this crap.

I can’t say I’m surprised, but it’s depressing to see a word that’s presumably been used ever since humans had language, become un-PC.
And since when is ‘birthing’ a word, anyway? You don’t ‘birth’ a baby, you give birth to it.
Although I know it’s used in the dumbed-down way a lot now.

To be fair our influence on Bidens health policy is probably minimal.

I’m disappointed Biden has fallen for all this nonsense.

Did he give way to pressure I wonder?

So how is it supporting women to deny them the right to become men if they wish, and to give birth? It's the usual discrimination- only people (women) like me count, those who are different must conform to my standards.
Who needs patriachy there are women who will do the job as well if not better than men.

Today 22:21 BlueBelle

Yep I m in agreement with the rest of posters you can’t give birth without a womb whatever words you use.

Totally agree.

Call yourself what you will. Man, woman, trans man, trans woman, non binary etc. No problem.
so far as I know, so far only a person biologically born as a woman can give birth .

Exactly buddy1954.
The world has gone bluddy crazy to appease the plebing minority.

Who needs patriachy there are women who will do the job as well if not better than men.

This has to win the GN irony award for 2021.

Women are being made into non-men, and you support this, yet claim that those who speak up against it are supporting the patriarchy?