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One law for football fans?

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vegansrock Sat 19-Jun-21 05:34:28

It seems thousands of ticketless football fans are allowed to congregate in London, leaving mountains of rubbish, getting drunk and intimidating others on public transport etc, whilst a few women at a peaceful vigil for a murdered woman are arrested, handcuffed, dragged away by police. Is it one law for football fans and another for women?

Marydoll Sat 19-Jun-21 14:18:05

Exactly what I sad to my husband Fanny There so many opportunities for learning through this. My pupils would have loved it. Excellent opportunities for writing for a start!

Alegrias1 Sat 19-Jun-21 14:21:04

Ashcombe

^it's a global language^

As are many things e,g. music, dance, art……

What an odd response....

Anyway, I remember as a child watching the 1970 World Cup Fanny at school, learning about all the nations that were taking part etc.

Scotland wasn't in it and I do remember at the time thinking that was fair because we weren't a proper country shock I was only 8....I've moved on a bit smile

Ellianne Sat 19-Jun-21 14:24:03

I agree with those who don't understand how it all works in terms of unfair covid restrictions. Nothing against football, but we have a family wedding in a few weeks and the couple have had to cancel their band because there can be no dancing amongst their guests.

As for girls or young ladies playing football, it is on the timetable at snobby Roedean School and the school has a 5 aside football pitch. Good on them. This is the 21st century.

FannyCornforth Sat 19-Jun-21 14:36:16

Ashcombe

^it's a global language^

As are many things e,g. music, dance, art……

Yes, we did all of those wonderful things too!
A broad and balanced, creative curriculum! grin

Alegrias1 Sat 19-Jun-21 14:52:50

Here are some of those drunk and disorderly Scotland fans that some GNers are so angry about.

rafichagran Sat 19-Jun-21 14:56:03

Yes football is global, it Is also called the beautiful game. I used to love going and standing in the terraces when it was allowed. The last time I attended a football match was about 2 years ago, it's now all seating.
Also I was very impressed that all those young men playing took the knee in a stand against racism. I was proud of them all. They are definatly not hooligans or thugs.

Marydoll Sat 19-Jun-21 14:59:27

I actually have to thank Oldudders for bringing back a very happy memory of the time he mentioned in trafalger Square.

It was the anniversary of our engagement, just before our wedding and of course DH was carousing in London, when he should have been celebrating with me. I came home from my job in a bar, serving drunken Scottish louts, to a bouquet of a dozen red roses, to make up for his absence. wink

Kalu Sat 19-Jun-21 15:03:46

Ellianne

I agree with those who don't understand how it all works in terms of unfair covid restrictions. Nothing against football, but we have a family wedding in a few weeks and the couple have had to cancel their band because there can be no dancing amongst their guests.

As for girls or young ladies playing football, it is on the timetable at snobby Roedean School and the school has a 5 aside football pitch. Good on them. This is the 21st century.

Oh dear. snobby Roedean School, what a distasteful expression.

Lin52 Sat 19-Jun-21 15:12:49

vegansrock

It seems thousands of ticketless football fans are allowed to congregate in London, leaving mountains of rubbish, getting drunk and intimidating others on public transport etc, whilst a few women at a peaceful vigil for a murdered woman are arrested, handcuffed, dragged away by police. Is it one law for football fans and another for women?

More than a few women, and where was the vigil for Julia James. Many women, girls and men over the years have been viciously murdered, but not all are as publicly mourned.

Lin52 Sat 19-Jun-21 15:14:52

Kali2

Back to the massively important title here. This is not a discussion about football versus rugby or horse-racing, or tiddly winks.

It is about massive crowds (and I don't care if they were from Scotland, Devon or Timbuctu) arriving in a very large town with a large % not vaccinated- without any social distancing, etc. In the middle of a pandemic which is far from over, and with very serious rise of a dangerous variant.

Theatres and other veneus were they can insist on proof of Covid status, and limit numbers by having on a % of seats taken, and insist on masks, etc- can't open. So why tolerate this?

Could not have said it better.

Ellianne Sat 19-Jun-21 15:16:18

Apologies Kalu the word snobby was chosen as a complete opposite to others on this thread like "lower" class when talking about footballers. And pupils playing football are pupils be they boys or girls.
I do actually gave a friend who was a member of staff at Roedean, no distaste meant.

Polly12 Sat 19-Jun-21 15:17:05

Kalu

Ellianne

I agree with those who don't understand how it all works in terms of unfair covid restrictions. Nothing against football, but we have a family wedding in a few weeks and the couple have had to cancel their band because there can be no dancing amongst their guests.

As for girls or young ladies playing football, it is on the timetable at snobby Roedean School and the school has a 5 aside football pitch. Good on them. This is the 21st century.

Oh dear. snobby Roedean School, what a distasteful expression.

I guess Ellianne will speak for herself, but I read that as meaning that Roedean is a posh school (which it is) and therefore shows that football is not the sole perogative of the “proles” (a more distasteful expression!)

Rufus2 Sat 19-Jun-21 15:17:17

from my job in a bar, serving drunken Scottish louts
Marydoll So that's how you developed your "teno"!?
Those Scottish louts (Barbarians), have a lot --to answer for--for which to answer! grin
OooRoo

Ellianne Sat 19-Jun-21 15:17:50

Thank you Polly12.

Ellianne Sat 19-Jun-21 15:19:55

when talking about footballers.
Not footballers, football fans.

Michael12 Sat 19-Jun-21 15:21:18

Its out of control , if figures are right it should spiral .
As regards to football , I follow cycling on TV and events are from Europe , certain areas such as mountain top finishes which have no barriers , the fans touch the riders and then you read reports that a certain rider had caught a mild doe of covid .
Maybe if these crowd events some of which are supposed to restricted as to how close people are, will see the virus getting out of control ,and then things will maybe go back to another long lockdown as the powers to be have not got a clue .
Mick

Riverwalk Sat 19-Jun-21 15:25:06

Alegrias1

Here are some of those drunk and disorderly Scotland fans that some GNers are so angry about.

Pair of cuties!

Alegrias1 Sat 19-Jun-21 15:27:14

Maybe if these crowd events some of which are supposed to restricted as to how close people are, will see the virus getting out of control ,and then things will maybe go back to another long lockdown as the powers to be have not got a clue .

And maybe not.

Callistemon Sat 19-Jun-21 15:29:15

Marydoll
I'm impressed, never thought it of Rab C Nesbitt. Red roses!
???

vegansrock Sat 19-Jun-21 15:31:32

Lin52 are you saying women should not have been allowed a vigil because other women who have been horribly murdered don’t have equal publicity ? Of course all women murdered should be able to be mourned publicly or otherwise, but it’s smacks of whataboutery to say just because x didn’t happened y shouldn’t happen. Drunk football fans trashing a city are in the minority of fans but they do exist and cause havoc- not much evidence of social distancing and plenty of singing and dancing which is not allowed anywhere else, which is why I suggested it was one law for them and a different law for others.

Marydoll Sat 19-Jun-21 15:33:03

Callistemon, don't believe everything I write about Mr MDoll. He is a good 'un at heart. ?Albeit his heart appears to be made of solid concrete! ?

I had never received flowers before, so I was stunned, to say the least!

Callistemon Sat 19-Jun-21 15:39:01

As long as you've persuaded him not to wear that vest any more, Marydoll - you wouldn't want him to be mistaken for a lout when he leaves the house.
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Callistemon Sat 19-Jun-21 15:40:53

Drunk football fans trashing a city are in the minority of fans but they do exist and cause havoc- not much evidence of social distancing

Let's face it, there have been a few such incidents over the past year and they weren't all football fans.

Whatdayisit Sat 19-Jun-21 15:51:57

Yes the amount of things we can't do because of covid until it comes to football. It sells newspapers and that is the controller.

We went to RHS Bridgewater and it was so hot the grandchildren had drank all their water bottles and half of ours. The queue to the cafe was over an hour in the sun and then you were lucky to get a sea. I asked if there was a water bottle filling point and the assistant said "no because of covid and you can always buy some from the cafe!"

I thought places like that were supposed to be more environmentally friendly but no because of covid plastic waste has largely been dumped literally.
But football well anything goes. And i am a football fan.

MawBe Sat 19-Jun-21 16:05:59

Alegrias1

Here are some of those drunk and disorderly Scotland fans that some GNers are so angry about.

And some more
From today’s Independent

Scottish football fans helped clean up piles of litter left in central London ahead of the Euro 2020 match against England
Let’s not tar everybody with the same brush