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One law for football fans?

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vegansrock Sat 19-Jun-21 05:34:28

It seems thousands of ticketless football fans are allowed to congregate in London, leaving mountains of rubbish, getting drunk and intimidating others on public transport etc, whilst a few women at a peaceful vigil for a murdered woman are arrested, handcuffed, dragged away by police. Is it one law for football fans and another for women?

Kim19 Sat 19-Jun-21 16:06:23

First of all, Alegrias1, thank you for your contribution at 09:21:43. Priceless and oh so accurate.
Secondly, if it is true, would someone please enlighten me as to why Scotland's First Minister has singled out Manchester for 'recognition'?

Callistemon Sat 19-Jun-21 16:10:58

Well, there might be a protest march in this house shortly.

I very kindly left DH watching the football in one room and went back in there to find him watching the tennis!

Lollin Sat 19-Jun-21 16:24:18

Football fans making the government and all the authorities look very weak! Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber must be feeling, billy no mates, or that he needs better type of fans not more money? Personally I’m very cross, but still trying to do my bit to get out of this raging pandemic, hang on did I miss something is it all over?

Kalu Sat 19-Jun-21 16:45:29

Polly12

Kalu

Ellianne

I agree with those who don't understand how it all works in terms of unfair covid restrictions. Nothing against football, but we have a family wedding in a few weeks and the couple have had to cancel their band because there can be no dancing amongst their guests.

As for girls or young ladies playing football, it is on the timetable at snobby Roedean School and the school has a 5 aside football pitch. Good on them. This is the 21st century.

Oh dear. snobby Roedean School, what a distasteful expression.

I guess Ellianne will speak for herself, but I read that as meaning that Roedean is a posh school (which it is) and therefore shows that football is not the sole perogative of the “proles” (a more distasteful expression!)

And indeed, Ellianne has spoken for herself Polly12 but thank you for your explanation as to why a posh school was the example chosen.

Thank you Ellianne. All is clear now.

25Avalon Sat 19-Jun-21 17:31:43

In our ladies football team, which plays at the top of the women’s amateur game, we have old players, young players, players of all nationalities, from all classes and backgrounds gay players, trans players etc. All we ask is that they have the ability and dedication to play at our level and that the FA approves their player registration. In this respect Football is a great leveller and players all mix together. Also many of our players have more skills than their male counterparts. Many who come to watch are amazed at how good their game is. Women can play and then some. They were permitted to play during the WW1 when the men were away and drew large crowds, but then ended up being banned. It wasn’t until 1971 they were permitted to play again.

Chardy Sat 19-Jun-21 17:48:34

Wembley was only a quarter full and fans were all tested or double vaccinated

^Make sure you have your mobile match ticket, your ID (this should be the same as the identification you provided in the ticketing system), as well as yourface covering.Face coverings must be worn in the stadium complex at all times.

Proof of anegative Lateral Flow Test (LFT), reported and demonstrated via atext message or email from NHS Test and e screenshot or a printout. The test needs to be taken within48 hoursof the time stadium gates open. Orproof of full vaccination- both doses received at least 14 days prior to the match^

Chardy Sat 19-Jun-21 17:50:35

Sorry that quote was supposed to be in italics and referenced!
www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/event-guide/london/stadium/

Kali2 Sat 19-Jun-21 17:54:02

Chardy

Wembley was only a quarter full and fans were all tested or double vaccinated

^Make sure you have your mobile match ticket, your ID (this should be the same as the identification you provided in the ticketing system), as well as yourface covering.Face coverings must be worn in the stadium complex at all times.

Proof of anegative Lateral Flow Test (LFT), reported and demonstrated via atext message or email from NHS Test and e screenshot or a printout. The test needs to be taken within48 hoursof the time stadium gates open. Orproof of full vaccination- both doses received at least 14 days prior to the match^

this is not what we are talking about- but the thousands who came without tests, face coverings, etc.

Kalu Sat 19-Jun-21 17:57:36

Thankfully we live in more enlightened times now Avalon whereby, both girls and boys are encouraged to take up a wider range of sport, rather than gender approved nonsense.

My GD2 discovered football in primary school, now a dedicated player in the school team.

Chardy Sat 19-Jun-21 18:11:16

Kali2 In the 6 pages I've read, many things have been talked about.

Katek Sat 19-Jun-21 18:17:56

This is the ‘louts’ clearing up behind themselves…….

Kali2 Sat 19-Jun-21 18:22:25

and good for them- but with those Sainsbury's bags, they are not going to get very far, are they! And how many are there clearing up, out of how many, %entage?

But this is not the point of the OP, not the point at all.

Callistemon Sat 19-Jun-21 18:34:43

Kali2

Chardy

Wembley was only a quarter full and fans were all tested or double vaccinated

^Make sure you have your mobile match ticket, your ID (this should be the same as the identification you provided in the ticketing system), as well as yourface covering.Face coverings must be worn in the stadium complex at all times.

Proof of anegative Lateral Flow Test (LFT), reported and demonstrated via atext message or email from NHS Test and e screenshot or a printout. The test needs to be taken within48 hoursof the time stadium gates open. Orproof of full vaccination- both doses received at least 14 days prior to the match^

this is not what we are talking about- but the thousands who came without tests, face coverings, etc.

It is not football and the Euros which should be criticised then.
That is well organised.

It's the idiots who decide to travel despite Covid, without tickets, and leave behind a mess for others who are more responsible to clear up.

Alegrias's photo shows the responsible football fans, brought to an exciting match by a parent, presumably with tickets and attending within the rules and there are many like that.

The rest should have been herded up and sent back.

Ellianne Sat 19-Jun-21 18:37:18

And parents aren't allowed to attend their childrens' school sports days this year.

Kalu Sat 19-Jun-21 18:37:47

Threads invariably wander on GN Kali2. It has always been thus as you will discover.

Katek Sat 19-Jun-21 18:56:40

Picture doesn’t show the whole story- there were large bins just outwith this shot that they were filling with the smaller bags. Yes, several guidelines were broken, but please don’t label all the fans as louts.

Callistemon Sat 19-Jun-21 19:46:09

Kalu

Threads invariably wander on GN Kali2. It has always been thus as you will discover.

Rather like chats with friends, sometimes it's impossible to remember how the conversation began.

Marydoll Sat 19-Jun-21 20:19:48

It's the wandering on threads I enjoy! I do have a butterfly brain, that probably explains why! wink

25Avalon Sat 19-Jun-21 20:36:58

Ellianne

And parents aren't allowed to attend their childrens' school sports days this year.

Something my dd was complaining of when yesterday was allowed to take place. Crazy!

SueDonim Sat 19-Jun-21 21:52:19

Ellianne

And parents aren't allowed to attend their childrens' school sports days this year.

Nor parents allowed to watch their pre-schoolers ‘graduate’ from nursery classes. sad

You must not go to Manchester or Salford because of high CV but it is fine to go to Dundee which has similar CV rates. You can’t visit Scotland even when you’re double-vaccinated if you come by cruise ship, not even if you live in Scotland, yet you can come on trains or coaches.

You can’t have more than 100 people at your wedding but you can gather with 5,999 other people in a football fan zone in Glasgow.

Its time to stop making these ridiculous rules.

MawBe Sat 19-Jun-21 22:36:41

Kali2

and good for them- but with those Sainsbury's bags, they are not going to get very far, are they! And how many are there clearing up, out of how many, %entage?

But this is not the point of the OP, not the point at all.

That’s right, criticise somebody making an effort,
But oh dear “With those Sainsbury’s bags etc” Bloody picky or what?
I don’t see any England fans or Pearl clutching grannies offering to help. Sometimes the younger generation can’t get it right in some people’s eyes. ?

Callistemon Sat 19-Jun-21 22:40:29

Its time to stop making these ridiculous rules.

I'm beginning to think the same, SueDonim.

Some of the rules are arbitrary, unnecessary and in fact ridiculous which means that, if one is essential, people may tend to ignore it.

rafichagran Sat 19-Jun-21 22:55:25

Well said MawAt least they showed willing, and I resent them being called louts, as was said upthread.

Callistemon Sat 19-Jun-21 23:00:25

The few behave badly but the majority get blamed too.

Well done to those who were clearing up after the irresponsible ones left the mess.

misty34 Sat 19-Jun-21 23:11:39

Lots of the Scottish football fans were in London today picking up all the litter and mess left around . They are not all bad.