RNLI and Farage

Such a good post alegrias

The attached is a list of every institution the Tories have recently criticised.
Strangely they are the institutions we hold most dear.
Why do you think that is?

Excellent post, Alegrias. Thank you

While the RNLI are doing the Government’s job it could leave other people at risk. Something must be done about it.
Thankfully a lifeboat was just starting a practice exercise when my granddaughter’s friend was caught in a rip-tide, recently, in Filey, along with her father and brother. Sadly, the father was dead when they reached him. Thanks to the lifeboat, and the helpfulness of someone on the beach using his drone to pinpoint them in the water, the two teenagers were rescued. The girl was in a bad way, but is now recovering.
God bless the RNLI.

Bravo Allegrias. Excellent post.

PS. God bless, also, the blood donors who supplied the 17 pints of blood needed before her internal bleeding was under control!

I have been a lifelong supporter of the RNLI. My husband's family were seafarers and sadly he lost an uncle and cousin to the sea.
I believe the RNLI are having to take on more than they should.
There should be safer routes for people to come here and be assessed once they are here. I hate to see small children in these little boats

There should be safer routes for people to come here and be assessed once they are here.

So there should be, but there aren't.

Providing safer routes would obviously put the traffickers out of business, so why don't the government do it if that is their objective? Clearly it's because this government doesn't want asylum seekers here at all. Which is, I think, reneging on international obligations?

As there are more and more risking their lives in dangerous crossings and getting here anyway it would make sense to regulate the system and those people could be helped to make a life and work in the UK. We seem to be short of many staff in haulage the NHS and hospitality.

AGAA4

As there are more and more risking their lives in dangerous crossings and getting here anyway it would make sense to regulate the system and those people could be helped to make a life and work in the UK. We seem to be short of many staff in haulage the NHS and hospitality.

Absolutely AGAA4.

We already have a regulated system already, the perception that migrants arrive here and disappear into the black economy is not the case, generally. Its more likely to be the case if we push it underground and make arriving by unsafe dinghy across the Channel, the only way desperate people can get here.

www.gov.uk/claim-asylum

too many "already"s...

AGAA4: There should be safer routes for people to come here and be assessed once they are here. I hate to see small children in these little boats.

SUCH a sensible remark! And IF (as has been implied) some of these refugees are so wealthy they pay tens of thousands of pounds to get here, the UK could even profit from it! (NOT that I believe the wealthy refugee theory of course. Devils advocate.)

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000y7sq
The Spark, Karen Stenner. How people who find it difficult to accept any difference in others are manipulated (as by Farage and his ilk). Sorry, already mentioned this pages back, but it's such an interesting astute listen, only half an hour long.

That was the programme Anneeba. Thanks for the link. Another worthwhile bit of learning instead of shouting the odds.

Some of the refugees could be doctors or nurses or teachers or a host of other professionals, all of which, if given a chance could contribute to British society.

Dinahmo

Some of the refugees could be doctors or nurses or teachers or a host of other professionals, all of which, if given a chance could contribute to British society.

Many of them will be indeed and should be welcomed. I am with Alegrias1 on this, good post, and like you, I will never apologise for calling out Farage. He disgusts me, just a little bot more than the people who support him.

Whitewave the pic that you show about things that ‘Conservatives don’t like’ is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen on GN (and I’ve seen a lot.)

I don’t support Farage. I might agree with some things he says if I consider them to be right and correct but there’s a lot I don’t agree with. All things considered I don’t think I actually support anybody.

I mean this sincerely and I'm not trying to pick a fight.

I can't think of anything political that Farage has ever said that I agree with, seriously.

Do 'some posters on gransnet' want people who are brown to drown? as it sounds like that is what Farage wants

sorry to be so blunt but a lot of what I have read suggests if they are over in France waters it is ok if they drown and even if they have passed some kind of boundary in the sea to the UK it is ok to let them drown as well

There also seems a lot of ignorance about the sea in general but this doesn't surprise as I lived on the coast and people were idiots wrt the sea and tides etc etc I have honestly never seen so much stupidity around water, so I suspect you some of you might fall into that part of the venn

Excellent post Alegraises1. This government could also allow those refugees to work while they are being processed, we are so short of so many skilled people I am sure it would be a great help, not only for them but us as well.

JaneJudge there are no comments on this thread that support what you say.

a lot of ignorance about the sea
Not me JaneJudge
One of my ancestors was on the Bounty.
I’ve sailed all my adult life.
I lived onboard for 20 years.
I’ve done my navigation course ( pre satellite navigation)
I’ve sailed across the channel more times than I can remember.
My OH has done the Fastnet Race.
So I do know a little bit about it ?

JaneJudge

Do 'some posters on gransnet' want people who are brown to drown? as it sounds like that is what Farage wants

sorry to be so blunt but a lot of what I have read suggests if they are over in France waters it is ok if they drown and even if they have passed some kind of boundary in the sea to the UK it is ok to let them drown as well

There also seems a lot of ignorance about the sea in general but this doesn't surprise as I lived on the coast and people were idiots wrt the sea and tides etc etc I have honestly never seen so much stupidity around water, so I suspect you some of you might fall into that part of the venn

Very nasty, and sickening last paragraph. Naivete around water, causes people to drown, like the poor souls on Loch Lomond, the young lads in the lake, but hey they were in your eyes, stupid. Did they deserve their fate, no they bloody well didn’t. Sadly not all are perfect like you.

MerylStreep

^a lot of ignorance about the sea^
Not me JaneJudge
One of my ancestors was on the Bounty.
I’ve sailed all my adult life.
I lived onboard for 20 years.
I’ve done my navigation course ( pre satellite navigation)
I’ve sailed across the channel more times than I can remember.
My OH has done the Fastnet Race.
So I do know a little bit about it ?

But you haven't even posted on this thread, Meryl. Did the call go out for a pile on?