RNLI and Farage

frightening number of Farage supporters on here today. Must be the weather

In real life, I think quite a lot of us might look at those whom folk chose to associate before forming an opinion.

Someone who chose to be associated with Nigel Farage, Dominic Cummings, Boris Johnson, Marine le Pen, Donald Trump. Narendra Modi, Rodrigo Duterte, Viktor Orbán, Jair Bolsonaro and Vladimir Putin would be someone to avoid.

So how could anyone ever have justified voting for the abomination that is brexit???

The RNLi are brilliant, luckily for them they have a fairly affluent clientele with the big motor yachts - I do hope a small proportion of what they spend on mooring fees & fuel (+++) is donated to the RNLi who will get scrambled to save them should they get into problems (sea is no respecter of affluence).
Farage is more of a shooting chap isn't he? Hope he's shot himself in the foot.

AGAA4

I don't like Farage but having watched the clip I can see his point. Using a charity such as RNLI to do the work of the authorities is wrong. Of course the RLNI will go out to save people at risk but I don't believe this is how they should be used.

It isn’t how it should be used.If the RNLI are getting distress calls and responding to them and liaising with the coastguard all well and good, of course they would never ignore people in trouble at sea.If, on the other hand they are actively going into French waters to look for migrants off their own bat as it were, that’s different and needs to be looked at.
So which is it?

varian

In real life, I think quite a lot of us might look at those whom folk chose to associate before forming an opinion.

Someone who chose to be associated with Nigel Farage, Dominic Cummings, Boris Johnson, Marine le Pen, Donald Trump. Narendra Modi, Rodrigo Duterte, Viktor Orbán, Jair Bolsonaro and Vladimir Putin would be someone to avoid.

So how could anyone ever have justified voting for the abomination that is brexit???

‘Ere we go, ‘ere we go.....Brexit worked into the conversation again.Got to hand it to you varian....?you never give up.

Once again, just like food banks, this government is relying on charities to do their job.

Are they though? Is the government asking the RNLI to do this?If so, then entirely wrong, but we need to be sure of all the facts first.

GillT57

frightening number of Farage supporters on here today. Must be the weather

Not a Farage supporter but adult enough to understand a point made by someone even if I don't like them.

AGA
Well said ??????

I'm not clear about this. Who is calling the RNLI out to aid the asylum seekers?

Chestnut

Lucca

Chestnut

Lucca I think you've misread what I meant, it was a comment typical of the posts on this thread, which are just having a pop at Farage but not discussing the actual content of what he said. I wasn't saying all your posts are like that, but that particular one was, and had no bearing on the subject.

How did it have no bearing on the subject ?? I was commenting on the video of Farage from GB news ???

“Luccas post is typical, complete ignores the subject ..etc etc” how is that not about my posts ?”

Two questions for you please.

You were commenting that there was a mention of Harry and Meghan in the video. This does not relate to the RNLI subject.
I'm sorry if my choice of words made you think something that was not intended. I've explained in my previous post.
But your post was after all just an excuse for a pop at Farage, with no mention of what he actually said about the RNLI and migrants. Calling someone names does not really add to the discussion.

This is the thread title “ RNLI and Farage “. I commented on Farage’s. Video about the RNLI

Men in family have been lifeboatmen since 1822 and probably unofficially saving lives at sea before then.

They are volunteers and put to sea to save lives. Any life, any creed, colour, origin, circumstance, foolishness, inexperience, accident, any life. Without judgement.

I’m proud of my ancestors who crewed and skippered the lifeboats and of those who do today.

The Government hasn’t asked them to do this. They do not answer or respond to them.

They put their own lives at risk simply to save others. Because they won’t let them die if they can be saved.

lemongrove

varian

In real life, I think quite a lot of us might look at those whom folk chose to associate before forming an opinion.

Someone who chose to be associated with Nigel Farage, Dominic Cummings, Boris Johnson, Marine le Pen, Donald Trump. Narendra Modi, Rodrigo Duterte, Viktor Orbán, Jair Bolsonaro and Vladimir Putin would be someone to avoid.

So how could anyone ever have justified voting for the abomination that is brexit???

‘Ere we go, ‘ere we go.....Brexit worked into the conversation again.Got to hand it to you varian....?you never give up.

And you don’t comment on the subject in and so I wonder if chestnut will attack you ? Hmmm. I think not.

MaizieD. The call comes from the Coastguard who will have assessed the situation and decided whether lifeboat, helicopter or shore based rescue is best.

The Coastguard gets their information from different sources. On board distress calls, flares, 999 calls by the public, other shipping, nowadays satellites play a role.

lemongrove

varian

In real life, I think quite a lot of us might look at those whom folk chose to associate before forming an opinion.

Someone who chose to be associated with Nigel Farage, Dominic Cummings, Boris Johnson, Marine le Pen, Donald Trump. Narendra Modi, Rodrigo Duterte, Viktor Orbán, Jair Bolsonaro and Vladimir Putin would be someone to avoid.

So how could anyone ever have justified voting for the abomination that is brexit???

‘Ere we go, ‘ere we go.....Brexit worked into the conversation again.Got to hand it to you varian....?you never give up.

why do you think? Are you saying Brexit has made no difference to our relationship with the French Governement and policing around Calais and other ports?

Peasblossom

MaizieD. The call comes from the Coastguard who will have assessed the situation and decided whether lifeboat, helicopter or shore based rescue is best.

The Coastguard gets their information from different sources. On board distress calls, flares, 999 calls by the public, other shipping, nowadays satellites play a role.

I was just about to ask whether this happens as I have lived on the Kent coast and the RNLI always came out if needed if the coastguard was called! People are talking as if the coastguard has a fleet of boats like ambulances and I just wondered if I was being naive!

I can't help wondering if any of the people criticising the RNLI would refuse their help if they were drowning.

I don't agree with the channel crossings, but once they're at sea, the only thing you can do rescue them and then let immigration deal with them.

The RNLI and its volunteers exist to save lives at sea.

Shame to anyone who is using them to advance their own political ideas.

It is pretty clear that many Leave voters had no idea that they were being fooled and they were joining the side of, not just liars like Farage.Cummings and Johnson, but some utterly vile people. The worst populist nationalists in the world.

Peasblossom

MaizieD. The call comes from the Coastguard who will have assessed the situation and decided whether lifeboat, helicopter or shore based rescue is best.

The Coastguard gets their information from different sources. On board distress calls, flares, 999 calls by the public, other shipping, nowadays satellites play a role.

Thanks, Peasblossom

I haven't watched the Farage video but the comments on here make it sound as though the government is somehow 'using' the Lifeboat service. Which would be very odd.

And why would they be entering French waters? Surely they wouldn't be called out to incidents outside our waters? Unless it were an absolute dire emergency and they were the nearest rescue service.

I'm just wondering if some manipulation of the details is going on...

My problem is that I don't think that Farage, or his supporters, wants these people here at all. Whether they've come by a 'legal' safe route, or via the people traffickers.

I don’t know the circumstances but the sea is a tricky thing!

It’s perfectly possible that they were called out to a boat in British waters that was then swept into French waters by wind or tide.

They wouldn’t just turn back at that point but would seek permission to enter French waters.

From the vile anti Brexit comments I am so glad I voted leave. I wouldn’t want to be associated with anyone making such remarks about those of us who voted to leave. Farage made some good points. The RNLI are being used or abused as a migrant taxi service, primarily by the traffickers, who put illegal migrants in danger.

Lucca

lemongrove

varian

In real life, I think quite a lot of us might look at those whom folk chose to associate before forming an opinion.

Someone who chose to be associated with Nigel Farage, Dominic Cummings, Boris Johnson, Marine le Pen, Donald Trump. Narendra Modi, Rodrigo Duterte, Viktor Orbán, Jair Bolsonaro and Vladimir Putin would be someone to avoid.

So how could anyone ever have justified voting for the abomination that is brexit???

‘Ere we go, ‘ere we go.....Brexit worked into the conversation again.Got to hand it to you varian....?you never give up.

And you don’t comment on the subject in and so I wonder if chestnut will attack you ? Hmmm. I think not.

Lucca what areyou talking about...I have already commented on the subject of the OP in earlier posts.
I do wish posters would read the thread before jumping in with their bovver boots on.

What a pillock that man truly is.

Peasblossom We all owe a huge debt to the brave men and women in your family who have done so much to help others.

It's good to know there are such decent, selfless people around.