Prince Andrew is being sued

I too am suspiscious about her motives,why did she agree to meet him after this sex attack,if thats what it was,
I know 17 is underage in the US, BUT WHY NAME ONLY HIM,
I think she is after moneyand i don't believe she thought she would die if she didn't co operate,
Sorry, not defending Andrew,but i think it's not as bad as it sounds
She looks quite happy in the photo with him

The father of Guiffrie was involved, I haven’t heard that any
member of the royal family was involved.

She kept the photograph for years, why keep a photograph of a
man who raped you , and she certainly looks happy in that
photograph.

Looking happy is neither here or there. Do people understand that many women live with their abusers for years and at points they will look happy.

It's at times like these that I think under no circumstances we should have a jury system for sexual assaults.

Come on - do any of you really believe they will extradite him to face charges - I seriously doubt it.

JaneJudge

I'm pretty sure the Father comment was about Robert Maxwell!

Phew - my mistake! Sorry!

It’s not a criminal case so they can’t extradite him.

I don’t know where the photo came from but she does look very happy. There have been suggestions it was faked. None of us can pretend to know the true facts of this matter. We weren’t there, we weren’t involved. Epstein is no longer here to be questioned and perhaps Maxwell isn’t, there have been rumours and time will tell.
Who are any of us to judge at this stage? I can only say I’m curious as to why, if there is merit in the claim, it was left to the last possible minute to lodge it with the court and as to why so far as I know no similar civil claims are being brought against other alleged male perpetrators or Epstein’s estate.

My father's daughter comment was about the Maxwell's.
Further up thread somebody mentioned VRG's father being involved as he got her the work where she met Maxwell at Trumpy's country club.

Assuming any of the claims are true, would men want to sleep with women who looked miserable as sin?
I'm sure there probably were some of those, but I would think it stroked men's egos to think an attractive young woman wanted their company.

25Avalon

It’s not a criminal case so they can’t extradite him.

How is it not a criminal case? If it's not, it definitely should be, which is not to prejudge his guilt or innocence, but the charge should definitely be a criminal one.

H1954

Is this woman a friend of Megan's by any chance?

I wasn’t going to join this thread but that takes the absolute biscuit.
Un ——ingbelievable comment.

So many men allegedly involved yet she chooses not to name an American, would it have been easier to sue an American rather than a man from another country, she wants justice , why make it more difficult.

Anniebach

So many men allegedly involved yet she chooses not to name an American, would it have been easier to sue an American rather than a man from another country, she wants justice , why make it more difficult.

Are you defending Windsor?

Anniebach

She kept the photograph for years, why keep a photograph of a
man who raped you , and she certainly looks happy in that
photograph.

So let me get this straight. You think Andrew is innocent of these charges ?

I think victims do not realise the Svengali Effect - they are emotional hostages to someone more powerful. It may take years, if ever, to realise what happened was not right.

There won't be answers WWM2 and Lucca. Just enough posts to cast doubt on this woman's character, just enough insinuations to plant a seed amongst the gullible that Windsor must be the innocent party. Then off into the ether.

Do we even know it was her who kept the photograph? I'm sure given what has been going on with Epstein/Maxwell, if that photo came to light people may try and find who the girl in the photo was.

Chewbacca

^I think the whole debauched business just highlights how wrong it is to have anyone with a title^

His title has nothing to do with what he's accused of. He is a man accused of being involved in the sexual molestation of a young girl that was procured for him by Epstein and Maxwell. He did that whilst being the father of 2 daughters of a similar age. My guess is that he would have done it whether he was a king, a banker or a dustman; his title just assisted him in covering his tracks a bit longer. There are far more "titled" people in the world, who have not been involved in sleazy behaviour, than you're alluding to.

Totally agree with this post Chewbacca

I cannot begin to understand what Epstein’s harem went through/were coerced/forced to do all for false promises that never materialised.

These girls were procured from poor and gullible families.

If this case stops any other young girl from going through the same, it’s worth it.

Daisend1

WHY leave what is after *all *alleged until now .?

Possibly because you believed that the case would be dealt with by the legal system and your abuser brought to justice? So she's hung on but the US has a statute of limitations, so something had to be done.
Funny how the law seldom deals with cases like this as robustly as you would hope isn't it?

Alegrias1

There won't be answers WWM2 and Lucca. Just enough posts to cast doubt on this woman's character, just enough insinuations to plant a seed amongst the gullible that Windsor must be the innocent party. Then off into the ether.

This is one of the most depressing threads I've read here.

In particular the barely-disguised "well maybe something did happen but she was asking for it or hoped to gain from it" comments.

Whitewavemark2 how is wondering why she didn’t name and Sue an American because it may have made her search for
justice easier saying Andrew is innocent ?

Hope you will explain

VRG was living a stable family life for the first time ever in Australia when the FBI sought her out because other victims had named her and Epstein's staff had. With the other victims they pursued Epstein, got screwed over by lawyers who bargained with Epstein then Maxwell. They have sought proper justice but been denied it. She is taking this path with Andrew because it is the only way left open to seek any justice and show to other victims to be strong.
I think Andrew may be cured of his non-sweating problem by now.

I dont know what to think about all this apart from the fact that he should have known better.

What was the girl doing there anyway? Was she there more than once?