Fingers crossed for Pen Farthing and Nowzad

Warnings of more suicide bombers. Those poor people. As if things aren't terrible enough for them without ISIS rearing it's ugly head.

It's so awful, isn't it?

There are just no words to express the desperation those poor people must be feeling.

You and me both LondonMzFitz. Have always had stray and rescued animals. Would never consider buying. I know I’m very much in the minority but I find breeding cats and dogs for sale, and buying pets, obscene. They are sentient beings, not commodities. Apologies for having digressed.

we have always had rescue pets too. I seem to be stuck with a difficult rescue breed because others cannot cope with them and cause me loads of problems indirectly.

I can't bear to watch what is happening in Kabul these men that think they have ownership over people are feral

I really struggle to get my head round a religion that thinks you will be rewarded in heaven if you blow yourself up and kill/injure as many innocent bystanders as possible ???

Just like the kamikaze pilots in WW2, who were honoured for their sacrifice, though I don’t believe there was any religion involved there. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think that the true Islam religion does teach that such atrocities will be rewarded, rather it’s the extremist notions of what the religion means.

Germanshepherdsmum

Just like the kamikaze pilots in WW2, who were honoured for their sacrifice, though I don’t believe there was any religion involved there. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think that the true Islam religion does teach that such atrocities will be rewarded, rather it’s the extremist notions of what the religion means.

Yes I think you are correct, it is the extremists interpretation of the Koran.

It’s the extremists who are quite frankly deranged, thinking they will be rewarded in heaven for being suicide bombers, the ordinary people don’t have their interpretation of the religion, they want to work hard and provide for their families. Sorry as I am for the animals, the plight of those that put their lives on the line helping us take priority.. I love all animals but people come first. My hopes and prayers are with them

If Pen had been allowed to leave quickly and quietly as soon as we had raised the money for the plane it wouldn't have been the big news it has become. The government's prevarication and constant mind changing (yes you can, no you can, yes you can) has turned it into a big story. If the Taliban get hold of them now they will publicly torture and kill the animals and the people while assuring us it's all our own fault.

Deedaa

If Pen had been allowed to leave quickly and quietly as soon as we had raised the money for the plane it wouldn't have been the big news it has become. The government's prevarication and constant mind changing (yes you can, no you can, yes you can) has turned it into a big story. If the Taliban get hold of them now they will publicly torture and kill the animals and the people while assuring us it's all our own fault.

He has tweeted that they have come under fire but all ok including the 140 dogs and 60 cats.

With extremists like ISIS and the Taliban (and many others) around, is it any wonder some of us prefer animals to people?

I am so delighted to see some common sense on this thread, about needing to prioritise humans over animals! (The rest of my social media seems to regard this man as an absolute hero - I think he’s a typical posh guy egomaniac)
He’s now complaining (having finally got permission to fly) that the rules had changed when he got to the airport. So his stubbornness about not leaving without those cats and dogs has potentially cost the lives of the men women and children he claims to be supporting? I notice he evacuated his own family last week though.
He’s behaved selfishly, irresponsibly and arrogantly, in my view. Mind you, if he does get them all out (and I hope he does, for the sake of those poor people) he’ll probably get given an OBE. What a ridiculous country we’ve become.

Well I'm sad for Pen Farthing, his staff and animals, I desperately wanted him to succeed.

Yes, Maudi, me too.
As a dog lover, I have been awake at night thinking about this awful situation.

Maudi

Well I'm sad for Pen Farthing, his staff and animals, I desperately wanted him to succeed.

He has tweeted that US have changed paperwork requirements, and as US control the airport despite being within the airport corden the convoy has been denied access and turned away…

These are his tweets

Hear, hear Millbrook an accurate assessment.

I totally agree with all you have written millbrook there is no way animals should be prioritised over humans and those applauding him are over sentimentalising the whole thing

There are man women children being slaughtered before your eyes he wants his animals out ahead of them? give me a break
I am an animal lover and would never ever want one harmed but this isn’t a fairy story it’s real life

If you saw a human and their dog drowning would you all save the dog first then think about the human …of course not you get the human out then if able turn to help the dog and that’s how it should be here

Thing is, nobody is standing there thinking hmm, baby or dog, which shall I choose?

A plane was chartered to bring him and his people out. It would have been full of people. People who had the necessary paperwork to be evacuated. Therefore there would been more spaces on the official evacuation flights because Farthing's people would have been on their own flight. Oh, and the animals would have been in the hold, where people can't go.

So anybody calling this "sentiment" needs to get their facts straight.

Well said, Alegrias1.

Well said, Alegrias1! Oh, and I'd be prioritising the animals over some GN posters any day of the week.

Well said, Algerias1!

Deedaa

If Pen had been allowed to leave quickly and quietly as soon as we had raised the money for the plane it wouldn't have been the big news it has become. The government's prevarication and constant mind changing (yes you can, no you can, yes you can) has turned it into a big story. If the Taliban get hold of them now they will publicly torture and kill the animals and the people while assuring us it's all our own fault.

Why should this self entitled man have any more priority than those who are having to leave their country, maybe forever. You do realise that there have to be flight plans, military planning, adding in a private jet does not give it priority, have to wait like all the others. His staff, like his wife, could have left on military planes. Even then he’s complaining about one member of his staff who wasn’t given priority on a German flight., I know she’s pregnant, least she’s out. The poor Afghan women who’ve had to give birth mid flight, know where my empathy lies. He’s turned it into a big story, instead of quietly working behind the scenes, he’s blown it up out of all proportion.

I'm not sure why a privately chartered jet should be give a slot ahead of all the military aircraft from many different countries trying to get their staff, many of whom are Afghans and their families who are in extreme danger, having worked for NATO forces, out of Kabul..

He, his staff and animals simply cannot jump the queue but I hope they do all manage to get out.

Well said Alegrias and Blondiescot.