Harry does Something Commendable Shock!

Yes,but the Queen doesn't preach to the rest of us, the Queen doesn't bang on about compassion , except of course for her own family. The Queen is truthful, spot the difference .

She probably read out the bit about not raising taxes. How's that going?

She'll read whatever they tell her.

Jaberwok

Yes,but the Queen doesn't preach to the rest of us, the Queen doesn't bang on about compassion , except of course for her own family. The Queen is truthful, spot the difference .

That’s not what this is about! Does it matter if he had help with his speech ? Again ….the point is that whether gransnet like it or not Prince HarryM is still a high profile figure and the speech made good points which could actually be useful in persuading some people to be vaccinated .
It is not about all the “sins “ that Meghan and harry have committed
If the queen or William had given/read this speech what would you have said ??

But you see Lucca for some it is "about all the sins that Meghan and harry have committed".

'One swallow doesn't make a summer' and one good speech from Harry after all the trashing of his own family, the lies that have been told and the unsubstantiated claims is nothing by comparison.

My first post on this thread was he has a mountain to climb and he does. Public opinion to a great extent is against him and it will take time and a lot of effort on his part to redress that, if ever.

Here's the thing. The people who organised the award ceremony probably chose presenters who they thought would be popular with the audience. I'm going to take a guess that getting Harry to talk about vaccines was a PR success for GQ, and unless I'm very wrong there's probably not that many GNers who read GQ. They really don't care what a bunch of over 50s Grans think of him, their core audience probably think he's the bees knees.

I don't understand why your posts on any thread that isn't 100% supportive of H & M have to be so condescending Alegrias, especially as you have no idea how many, if any of "their core audience" were over 50s Grans.

Whether you like it or not, H's population isn't what it once was and he only has himself to blame.

I'm sorry you find them condescending Smileless2012. I find the posts constantly criticising H&M for imagined slights and for being woke and hypocritical, childish and a little bit unsettling, as though there's a well spring of hatred just being held back that gets let loose as soon as anybody mentions them. Pitchforks at dawn. Personally, I don't think its healthy.

I'm a straight talker, I'm entitled to my opinion, we need a return of free speech in this country, etc, etc.

You're not the only "straight talker" ... entitled to (your) opinion" and yes "we need a return of free speech in this country, etc, etc." so bear that in mind when others are doing the same, without making condescending comments about what your point of view.

that should read *without making condescending comments when expressing your point of view.

Smileless2012

You're not the only "straight talker" ... entitled to (your) opinion" and yes "we need a return of free speech in this country, etc, etc." so bear that in mind when others are doing the same, without making condescending comments about what your point of view.

Yes miss.

and one good speech from Harry after all the trashing of his own family, the lies that have been told and the unsubstantiated claims is nothing by comparison. I never said it was. I said it was a good/useful speech. You seem to agree. So that’s fine .

We didn’t need all the rehashing of his and Meghan’s past sins commission and omission.

I'm going to take a guess that getting Harry to talk about vaccines was a PR success for GQ
I've heard of it and I'm well over 50.
But I thought it was a men's fashion magazine so hardly to be taken that seriously surely?

(I recently got an A in IGCSE Biology (smile) does that count?)
Well, if a men's fashion magazine is to be taken seriously now by the scientific world then that is highly impressive, FannyCornforth.
I will nominate you for a Nobel prize in Ology.

It's like anything or anybody who is even vaguely involved with Harry or Meghan is immediately treated as muck under your shoes, although I'm sure someone will be along to tell me how wrong I am. The desire to clobber H&M has become a reason to try to discredit everything and everybody that doesn't think they are the despicable traitors that some GNers are convinced they are.

Don't get on the wrong side of the mob, they'll eat you alive.

Well, if a men's fashion magazine is to be taken seriously now by the scientific world then that is highly impressive

Hey any organisation giving an award to those brilliant scientists is fine in my book! Without them we’d all be stuck indoors still.

Plus any well known/famous/royal/celebrity person who speaks out about anti vax misinformation also is fine with me

Having now RTFT, I conclude that Harry should have consulted scientists, while he most definitely should not have consulted a speech writer.

Is that correct?

You mean that’s what GN thinks ?

No, I was being disparaging to ‘certain posters’ ()

(It’s my word of the day- I’ve been called it twice on here already this morning!)

According to today’s Guardian the Daily Mail are incensed at Harry because he blames the media for misinformation concerning covid jabs! Well, excuse me the tabloids are notorious for printing misinformation. It’s how they make their money

Lucca

*Well, if a men's fashion magazine is to be taken seriously now by the scientific world then that is highly impressive*

Hey any organisation giving an award to those brilliant scientists is fine in my book! Without them we’d all be stuck indoors still.

Plus any well known/famous/royal/celebrity person who speaks out about anti vax misinformation also is fine with me

I wasn't disparaging any scientists or their achievements at all, just wondering at the kind of world where a men's fashion magazine is taken so seriously!

disparaging

I used it too - is it the GN Word of the Day?

Re the media to which Harry was referring.
I took it as he was taking a US perspective, and talking about US media, Fox News in particular.

I had never heard of these awards so googled, photographs of
celebrities ! on red carpet, didn’t recognise one.

Isn't one of the presenters of Fox News a friend of Meghan's, who was constantly revealing juicy bits of information about their situation with H's family, or was that on another morning tv show?

Nice to recognise the scientists so I have no issue with the awards, Harry's speech seems fine but I don't get the "commendable" when I saw the thread title I thought he'd done something a bit more remarkable than read a speech out, whoever wrote it.