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Uncouth Angela Rayner doing Labour no favours

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Maudi Thu 23-Sept-21 12:28:55

Well I'm from a working class background but please Angela Rayner having a go at Raab did herself and Labour no favours.

Parsley3 Sat 25-Sept-21 10:43:49

Curlywhirly

Is it just a Britsh thing to stereotype people with certain accents ? I wonder if France, Italy, Germany, the US have the same problem?

That’s a good question. Is accent snobbery confined to us Brits?

Callistemon Sat 25-Sept-21 10:46:26

growstuff

Anniebach

I can’t think of any party leader or members of the cabinet or
shadow cabinet with or had a strong accent.

Kinnock?

Kinnock's accent wasn't strong.

William Hague has an accent.

Callistemon Sat 25-Sept-21 10:47:40

Parsley3

Curlywhirly

Is it just a Britsh thing to stereotype people with certain accents ? I wonder if France, Italy, Germany, the US have the same problem?

That’s a good question. Is accent snobbery confined to us Brits?

Yes they do and it's not just here.

If we learn a foreign language we are often unaware of the accent we may pick up from the teacher, too.

Curlywhirly Sat 25-Sept-21 10:48:32

Anniebach

I can’t think of any party leader or members of the cabinet or
shadow cabinet with or had a strong accent.

Harold Wilson?

Callistemon Sat 25-Sept-21 10:50:34

Alegrias1

Well I never knew couth was a word.

Have you never heard the term "a couth youth"
?

lemongrove Sat 25-Sept-21 10:54:10

Wilson could be a Yorkshireman when it suited him ( like the pipe and pint in hand) but had any rough edges knocked off him at Oxford I presume.

libra10 Sat 25-Sept-21 10:54:42

Like most politicians, Angela Rayner enjoys spending taxpayers' money.

She claimed for 2 sets of Apple AirPods costing £250 each on Commons expenses.

Although after all the criticism, she did pay some cash back.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/14203562/angela-rayner-claimed-second-pair-of-apple-airpods/

Anniebach Sat 25-Sept-21 10:55:25

Agree lemon

Alegrias1 Sat 25-Sept-21 10:57:55

Oh, those air pods she bought for a member of staff will just tip the whole country over into poverty, I should think.

I wonder if she has a duck house.

lemongrove Sat 25-Sept-21 11:00:57

It’s all tax payers money, whichever MP does this kind of thing.

Witzend Sat 25-Sept-21 11:04:15

Alegrias1

Well I never knew couth was a word.

It's a proper education, this Gransnet. Ever so pleased I am, to be allowed to take part. Makes you proper grateful, so it does. ( reverses out, tugging forelock respectfully )

Alegrias, I put ‘couth’ in inverted commas for that very reason, and because AR had been described in the post title as uncouth. I should have thought that was obvious.

So really no need for the chippy comment.

lemsip Sat 25-Sept-21 11:05:46

Re Strong accents Mps. ... which I googled
A Welsh MP has complained of Tories making "disparaging remarks" about his accent in the House of Commons.

Jonathan Edwards, in raising the issue with Speaker John Bercow, said he became aware of the "mockery" during the second reading debate of the Finance Bill on Monday.

The Plaid Cymru MP said the comments of the unnamed Tories served only to "reinforce the privilege and exclusive perception of Westminster".

Mr Bercow in his response condemned the comments as "bullying" but also admitted he himself had on occasion engaged in "extraordinarily ineffective mimicry" of certain MPs and apologised for his behaviour.

sandelf Sat 25-Sept-21 11:07:11

Adrian Chiles (Brumagum accent) enjoys people in power being more frank than they should as they assume he's an idiot... He's had interesting interviews he'd never have if he'd acted Public School. Angela is a bit blunt but I admire her - you need a VERY thick skin to be female in public life - and we do need as many women as possible to speak up.

Alegrias1 Sat 25-Sept-21 11:07:15

So really no need for the chippy comment.

Me and AR, common and chippy, we are.

And I seriously didn't know couth was a word.

Callistemon Sat 25-Sept-21 11:07:43

So really no need for the chippy comment.
Some posters just like to feel superior Witzend

It really is not very couth.

JaneJudge Sat 25-Sept-21 11:07:55

It hasn't gone unnoticed that posters have started calling others 'chippy' . As I said on the first page, some of us come across this in real life. People like us plebs to know our place, it's a shame we are revolting.

Alegrias1 Sat 25-Sept-21 11:13:13

Oh, I just looked up the meaning of chippy.

Not very nice, is it?

growstuff Sat 25-Sept-21 11:56:28

Callistemon

growstuff

Anniebach

I can’t think of any party leader or members of the cabinet or
shadow cabinet with or had a strong accent.

Kinnock?

Kinnock's accent wasn't strong.

William Hague has an accent.

I guess it's a matter of perception. To me, Kinnock's accent was strong - maybe because I'm not surrounded by Welsh accents.

growstuff Sat 25-Sept-21 11:59:28

lemongrove

It certainly is a word....otherwise there wouldn’t be an uncouth.?

Historically, it was the other way round. "Uncouth" was a word before "couth".

MaizieD Sat 25-Sept-21 12:02:42

Alegrias1

Oh, those air pods she bought for a member of staff will just tip the whole country over into poverty, I should think.

I wonder if she has a duck house.

Does she have central heating in her stables paid for on parliamentary expenses?

Callistemon Sat 25-Sept-21 12:32:47

growstuff

Callistemon

growstuff

Anniebach

I can’t think of any party leader or members of the cabinet or
shadow cabinet with or had a strong accent.

Kinnock?

Kinnock's accent wasn't strong.

William Hague has an accent.

I guess it's a matter of perception. To me, Kinnock's accent was strong - maybe because I'm not surrounded by Welsh accents.

Probably growstuff
It seems quite gentle to some I hear!

Callistemon Sat 25-Sept-21 12:33:59

Alegrias1

Oh, I just looked up the meaning of chippy.

Not very nice, is it?

Snippy?

Callistemon Sat 25-Sept-21 12:36:06

Chippy
Show Definitions Chippy adjective – Feeling or displaying eagerness to fight.
Usage example: a chippy, defensive fellow whose alma mater was the school of hard knocks
^Snappy and chippy are semantically related In some cases you can use "Snappy" instead an adjective "Chippy^".

Alegrias1 Sat 25-Sept-21 12:50:32

chippy

ADJECTIVE
informal
(of a person) touchy and defensive, especially on account of having a grievance or a sense of inferiority.

Alternatively, a carpenter or a chip shop.

I am none of these things grin

Lucca Sat 25-Sept-21 12:51:46

A bus conductress ? Or was that a clippy?