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Uncouth Angela Rayner doing Labour no favours

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Maudi Thu 23-Sept-21 12:28:55

Well I'm from a working class background but please Angela Rayner having a go at Raab did herself and Labour no favours.

Alegrias1 Sat 25-Sept-21 12:52:51

As I remember it, many clippies were quite chippy. Or was that chipper.....?

JaneJudge Sat 25-Sept-21 12:57:23

chippy is certainly used to call out those lower than one self angry

Ilovecheese Sat 25-Sept-21 13:07:07

If a person is irritated by another person's accent, that reflects more on them than the one with the accent, and not in a good way. It just shows them to be a snob.

Callistemon Sat 25-Sept-21 13:12:21

especially on account of having a grievance or a sense of inferiority.
Certainly not applicable.

Barmeyoldbat Sat 25-Sept-21 14:09:27

I thought she was just wonderful. She spoke far better than Johnson does.

growstuff Sat 25-Sept-21 14:34:20

I always thought a chippy is a place where you can buy fish and chips.hmm

growstuff Sat 25-Sept-21 14:35:26

... with mushy peas and pickled eggs (if you want a gourmet meal).

MaizieD Sat 25-Sept-21 14:39:46

growstuff

... with mushy peas and pickled eggs (if you want a gourmet meal).

And scrapings. Don't forget the scrapings...

Atqui Sat 25-Sept-21 14:58:25

Why is deemed to be so wrong to critise people with regional accents or “ uncouth speech ” , but ok to make fun of people with “posh” accents even to the extent of calling them “tw***s.

Alegrias1 Sat 25-Sept-21 15:02:24

It's not having a posh accent that makes them twats.

MaizieD Sat 25-Sept-21 15:09:41

Alegrias1

It's not having a posh accent that makes them twats.

It's the fact that people are so impressed by their accents that they vote for twats.

Anniebach Sat 25-Sept-21 15:35:00

I don’t believe people vote for anyone because they have a
‘Posh accent’, what ever a posh accent is.

MissAdventure Sat 25-Sept-21 15:40:43

But they won't vote for people they consider uneducated (said on this thread)
They won't vote for people they think has made poor lifestyle choices (again, said on this thread)
Apparently lack of education is obvious, according to the way someone speaks.
Utter rubbish.

Galaxy Sat 25-Sept-21 15:52:13

Except when those lifestyle choices involve numerous affairs. Then they will vote for them.

MissAdventure Sat 25-Sept-21 15:55:46

Because they err, umm, ooh, um, er, speak "better".

Curlywhirly Sat 25-Sept-21 16:01:11

'Apparently lack of education is obvious, according to the way someone speaks.'

Well some people on this thread seem to think so.

I agree MissAdventure utter rubbish.

I wonder how Brian Cox, the physicist who has a broad Oldham accent ever managed to be so popular?

Alegrias1 Sat 25-Sept-21 16:08:10

Well seeing as how someone mentioned physics wink

James Clerk Maxwell was called "daftie" at school because of his country accent. Eventually he was responsible for the unified theory of electricity, magnetism and light on which much of the modern world is based.

Just as well GN wasn't around at the time, he'd never have been allowed off the farm.

MissAdventure Sat 25-Sept-21 16:16:10

A while ago, people here sang the praises of this well spoken woman.

youtu.be/Sq0G5_--Ew8

Atqui Sat 25-Sept-21 16:36:14

Alegrias1

It's not having a posh accent that makes them twats.

But many people think people who are “posh” are all self serving idiots.( I prefer not to use the synonym for c***ts). And on the subject of life choices and Boris, when did contraception become the sole responsibility of a man? Having said this I would stress that I am not a BJ supporter ,however he speaks.

Atqui Sat 25-Sept-21 16:36:53

Sorry too many asterisks.

grannyrebel7 Sat 25-Sept-21 16:42:43

She makes me cringe. If she wants to be taken seriously she should learn how to speak properly. Having said that I don't dislike her and I think she makes some good points and is passionate about the cause. Just stop saying things like 'quid' and 'scumbag' Angela!

MissAdventure Sat 25-Sept-21 16:53:38

I don't think that posh people are self serving idiots, any more than I think non posh speakers are as thick as mince.
I understood this was a free for all, criticising MPs, so I was simply joining in. smile
People are free to agree or disagree as they see fit.

eazybee Sat 25-Sept-21 16:59:41

Lack of education is apparent in the way people construct their speech, that is demonstrating poor use of basic grammar: 'them things' and 'we was' for example. Easily corrected by extensive reading, which is what most people who have been poorly educated do to improve their understanding.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with accent, regional or otherwise.

MerylStreep Sat 25-Sept-21 16:59:53

*Atqui
The synonym for the c word is pronounced with an o as in swot
When it’s said/ written with an a as in cat it denotes a complete idiot.

MissAdventure Sat 25-Sept-21 17:07:07

I think the fact that Rayner is now in the position she is shows that she hasn't needed to do extensive reading in order to function well.
I expect caring for her mum didnt leave much time for that sort of thing.