Does anyone here believe, as I do, that Johnson is finished (and I am sure HE does know himself)

Kali2

Flu season and cold weather approaching - winter of discontent ahead for sure. Oh and I totally agree re Gove or Truss... or any of them, really. Perhaps Sunak?

We know Labour is un-electable at the moment, and that is tragic and all of its own making. Conference proves that- hellbet on fighting each other instead of Tories! But that does not mean Johnson is not finished.

Running out of petrol and some things in shops is one thing - when we run out of chemicals for water purification (soon), and cancer treating isotopes...and essential utilities like gas and electricty, just as winter is coming + the flu season and shortages in hospitals and care homes, etc, etc, is another.

I do believe the Tories are a-turning- including the Cabinet. Wait and see. And if you don't see the signs, perhaps you should go to Durham ;) lol.

The above is scaremongering alright.

Kandinsky

Op.

I hate to break it to you, but we’ve already left the EU.

Yes, we have ... but not in real terms, no- we have not. There are, ways and ways ... and the implementation has not fully hit yet.

Can you put your hand on your heart and say you are pleased and satisfied at how things are turning out- despite most of the implementaiotnt

... implementations and consequences not having taken place yet.

(pressed on save by error).

Kali I realise that the UK leaving the EU upset you, but you have to accept that it happened and there is no going back.

Boris would never be leader. Wrong again.

Yes, that was me ? I hold my hands up.
So it's no good me predicting anything.

Jexit?

Leave or not leave, this Government is totally able and free to allow foreign workers to come back and save our agriculture and distribution infrastructure (wether those who left would agree to come back- is another story. Johnson is talking of allowing 5000 short-term visas in haulage- but the shortfall is 100000... how is that going to really help.

No scaremongering- it is happening right now and will be reality in a matter of a week or two.

Why is Labour relevant to this discussion - it’s a rabbit hole? The Tories are in power for ages yet, so if Boris goes it isn’t anything to do with Keir Starmer, it’s to do with whether the Tories think they can win with Boris in charge, or whether he’s had his day.

Yes, it's a Tory decision. Not Labour's, not ours.
Are they happy with their leader's performance or are rumblings afoot?

What do you mean ‘we haven’t left in real terms’? So we’re just pretending we’ve left?

I voted leave yes, and I have absolutely no regrets - I’d vote leave again, & so would everyone I know.

He is a clever man with no inhibitions about lying to people or knifing his enemies in the back.

Such men are very difficult to bring down. He will go in his own time, probably before the next election because he is by nature a lazy and indolent man, and being Prime Minister is hard work. With a 5 year premiership under his belt he will be hoping to exploit all those money making opportunities that he thinks will come to a man who has been Prime Minister for a significant time and will be much less demanding. With a wife and growing family, he will need the money.

Do you want to have a bet on that Monica ? ?

He is a clever man with no inhibitions about lying to people or knifing his enemies in the back.
Unlike others who have no compunction about knifing their friends and allies in the back.

Et tu Gove?

Primus inter pares

Kali2
Your right, ^ it’s not scare mongering^ it’s total B+%%@#£S

Don't be ridiculous.

Johnson is talking of allowing 5000 short-term visas in haulage- but the shortfall is 100000... how is that going to really help.

I'm puzzled - you say the shortfall is 100,000 but, according to the Road Haulage Association, 20,000 went back to the EU because of Brexit

100,00 - 20,000 = 80,000

Which must mean we have lost another 80,000 UK drivers due to other reasons and need to resolve this asap.

M0nica

He is a clever man with no inhibitions about lying to people or knifing his enemies in the back.

Such men are very difficult to bring down. He will go in his own time, probably before the next election because he is by nature a lazy and indolent man, and being Prime Minister is hard work. With a 5 year premiership under his belt he will be hoping to exploit all those money making opportunities that he thinks will come to a man who has been Prime Minister for a significant time and will be much less demanding. With a wife and growing family, he will need the money.

Didn’t Margaret Thatcherr negotiate a good pension deal for ex PM’s?

No

It’s the public duties cost allowance I’m thinking of and that was set up by John Major. I’m sure Johnson will make sure he does well out of that!

Someone else who thinks Johnson is finished

www.youtube.com/watch?v=goo06-v2h-w

Worth a watch as this chap does his due diligence.

I dont think Johnson is finished I just think its remainers wishful thinking . A lot of whats happing here is happening in Europe too .

Rosycheeks

I dont think Johnson is finished I just think its remainers wishful thinking . A lot of whats happing here is happening in Europe too .

Do you have a source for that?

We regularly visit three different supermarkets here in France where the shelves are as well stocked as ever. No problems with petrol either and nothing on the news about shortages. There is a shortage of HGV drivers but the EU is less affected than the UK.

I seem to remember several GN’ers confidently predicting Boris ‘would be gone’ by the New Year. New Year 2021 that is.

Well, he hasn’t gone yet, New Year 2022 perhaps?

No

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