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Scones Sun 03-Oct-21 09:39:12

The PM has said "big, bold decisions" are needed" and it would be interesting to hear what Conservative voters are hoping for.

Lincslass Sun 10-Oct-21 11:10:07

Alegrias1

You know what, I'm in a spectacularly good mood after watching John and Johannes on Strictly.

So I'm just going to ask Lincslass how many French people do you know? How long have you spent in France? Have you ever lived there there? Have you ever worked for any French companies?

And finally, what makes you so bitter?

What a ridiculous, insulting and frankly, laughable comment.

You are always so patronising. Bully comes to mind.

Kali2 Sun 10-Oct-21 11:15:23

No medical degree for me. No-one has diagnosed anyone with being paranoid, but for the posts expressing paranoia. A very different matter.

Alegrias1 Sun 10-Oct-21 11:18:33

I'm not always patronising.

Only when somebody posts something really daft.

No answers to the questions then?

JaneJudge Sun 10-Oct-21 11:20:33

sarcasm is lost on some people

GillT57 Sun 10-Oct-21 11:24:46

Lincslass

PippaZ

Lincslass

PippaZ

Rosycheeks

I was just thinking when the UK starts getting to be the envy of the world will all the remainers stop moaning. I for one am glad that we are out of the EU. You can stick what the rest of Europe thinks of us especially France.

There's an in-depth, thoughtful message for our poor, benighted country.

I'm sure the French love you too.

Aah but we know the French definitely don’t love us. Never have, unless of course we are lining their pockets.

That does sound paranoid. I think it's true that the French govenment see our government as a bad actor when it comes to keeping their word or sticking to agreements (that would be because they don't). I doubt they spend their time loving or not loving our country and the people in it. That would be obsessive, wouldn't it.

So you diagnose me as paranoid , do you have a medical degree. Or is just because I’m having a pop at the French as you so happily have a pop at this country and the people in it, and me too of course.

No Lincsclass, it is because you are posting arrant nonsense, nobody needs a medical degree to diagnose that.

Kali2 Sun 10-Oct-21 11:27:01

PippaZ

Rosycheeks

I was just thinking when the UK starts getting to be the envy of the world will all the remainers stop moaning. I for one am glad that we are out of the EU. You can stick what the rest of Europe thinks of us especially France.

There's an in-depth, thoughtful message for our poor, benighted country.

I'm sure the French love you too.

I'd say that was very nasty and unpleasant re EU and France, really. Same as the post as 'don't you have nothing better to do', and a few more.

Pot and kettles.

Of to the sane place that is my garden.

Katie59 Sun 10-Oct-21 11:27:35

“Aah but we know the French definitely don’t love us. Never have, unless of course we are lining their pockets.”

Most don’t care one way or the other, if they express an opinion it’s, “why”, what did you hope to gain by leaving the EU, that would apply to other nationalities as well

As for lining their pockets, yes they are, that was our choice we allowed foreigners to buy utilities and strategic industries.
France is in the forefront, they protect their own industries, we don’t.

PippaZ Sun 10-Oct-21 12:28:30

“Aah but we know the French definitely don’t love us. Never have, unless of course we are lining their pockets.”

You don't "know" that at all Katie59. You just chose to believe sources that show themselves to be generally lacking knowledge or awareness as well as uneducated it seems. I should stay of those forums and reading those newspapers if I was you.

MaizieD Sun 10-Oct-21 13:14:09

PippaZ

“Aah but we know the French definitely don’t love us. Never have, unless of course we are lining their pockets.”

You don't "know" that at all Katie59. You just chose to believe sources that show themselves to be generally lacking knowledge or awareness as well as uneducated it seems. I should stay of those forums and reading those newspapers if I was you.

Err, Pippa. Katie59 was quoting from someone else's post about the French not loving us. She doesn't think that.

PippaZ Sun 10-Oct-21 13:23:20

Opps. Sorry Katie. What I said obviously applies to the original post.

Kali2 Sun 10-Oct-21 15:19:09

''as you so happily have a pop at this country and the people in it,''

you will find that those of us who are sincerely worried about what is happening in Great Britain currently - are deeply concerned because of what is being done to it, and its people. Absolutely the opposite.

MayBee70 Sun 10-Oct-21 15:27:47

Kali2

''as you so happily have a pop at this country and the people in it,''

you will find that those of us who are sincerely worried about what is happening in Great Britain currently - are deeply concerned because of what is being done to it, and its people. Absolutely the opposite.

I love my country so much. As Kali says, this is why it’s heartbreaking to see what is happening to it. The lunatics have definitely taken over I’m afraid….

Scones Sun 10-Oct-21 15:27:55

The only problem the French government have with Britain is the one the Daily Mail have invented as their current bête noire

This fabrication has been taken up greedily by people who don't enjoy reading widely and who hold a quiet admiration for Nigel Farage.

Josianne Sun 10-Oct-21 15:54:48

I am sure the French elite at the grandes écoles are taught the gallic shrug when it comes to matters concerning the UK and other countries. I doubt if they lose any sleep over what is happening elsewhere.
I just wish my own country had as much pride in itself.

Alegrias1 Sun 10-Oct-21 16:03:53

Je travaillais dans une grande école.

There were no Gallic shrugs where I was concerned.

Only a whole lot of students who understood their country's place in the EU and who were desperate to go out and see how people lived and worked in other countries. Because their "pride" didn't extend to belittling other countries, no matter what the Daily Mail says. Although its mostly the Daily Express now, n'est-ce pas?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 10-Oct-21 16:11:59

The lying seems to be catching!

“Shortly after Kwasi Kwarteng says he’s engaging with Treasury over ways they can help industry, a Treasury source said:

“This is not the first time the BEIS secretary has made things up in interviews. To be crystal clear the treasury are not involved in any talks”

PippaZ Sun 10-Oct-21 16:27:03

"When thieves fall out, honest men come by their own."

Let's hope it's soon or there will be nothing for this country to "come into".

Perhaps we should have a thread entitled "This forum believes this government is not fit for purpose".

Josianne Sun 10-Oct-21 16:28:17

Alegrias1

^Je travaillais dans une grande école.^

There were no Gallic shrugs where I was concerned.

Only a whole lot of students who understood their country's place in the EU and who were desperate to go out and see how people lived and worked in other countries. Because their "pride" didn't extend to belittling other countries, no matter what the Daily Mail says. Although its mostly the Daily Express now, n'est-ce pas?

I love it. A 1000 words couldn't convey better meaning!
I have never taught in a prestigious French school. The kids I taught were more likely to say "bof!" I think they must be born with the shrug.
It's fine to have a little joke about other countries, but belittling is stupid.
The Daily Express is not one of the papers I read, so I can't comment.

Alegrias1 Sun 10-Oct-21 16:30:26

The students I taught use to quote Shakespeare and James Joyce at me. shock. And they were engineers!

Kali2 Sun 10-Oct-21 22:03:06

Students from EU all continue to learn English for the Matu/Bac- aka A'Level equivalent. And also those doing apprenticeships and vocational training.

Lucca Mon 11-Oct-21 08:55:31

Josianne

JaneJudge

Raymond Blanc is such a hateful man

for example grin

NPTK

OKLM

Urmstongran Mon 11-Oct-21 09:12:43

MayBee70

Kali2

''as you so happily have a pop at this country and the people in it,''

you will find that those of us who are sincerely worried about what is happening in Great Britain currently - are deeply concerned because of what is being done to it, and its people. Absolutely the opposite.

I love my country so much. As Kali says, this is why it’s heartbreaking to see what is happening to it. The lunatics have definitely taken over I’m afraid….

There’s a lot of posh posturing going on here! Excludes all of us plebs who can’t speak French or understand the French acronyms used for texting . I had to look them up. A cosy little club indeed!

Once you’ve all finished showing off your superior intellects the rest of us could join in once more?

Urmstongran Mon 11-Oct-21 09:15:51

Apologies - I must have pressed the q’quote’ facility somehow before adding my post. It really doesn’t add anything to my comment. In fact it makes me seem dimmer than I am. Oh heck! Not only can I not speak French I’m coming across as an English dimwit.
?

Kali2 Mon 11-Oct-21 09:21:29

M D R

mort de rire = LOL in French.

Had to look up OKLM too btw!

No posh posturing from me- for sure. The FACT is, that students all over Europe continue to learn a second language, and often a third- right up to leaving education- be it at Uni, Tech College, or even apprenticeships. Whereas in the UK this is not the case, and even less so now than in even recent past.

Kali2 Mon 11-Oct-21 09:22:02

Can you speak Spanish though?