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Scones Sun 03-Oct-21 09:39:12

The PM has said "big, bold decisions" are needed" and it would be interesting to hear what Conservative voters are hoping for.

Greta Thu 07-Oct-21 09:42:07

JenniferEccles: ”We finally sent that corduroy Communist cosmonaut into space where he belongs” !

I love it!

Shame on you then. Boris Johnson is our Prime Minister. He should govern – not fool around. Unfortunately for us his modus operandi is ”I haven't got a proper plan, I don't know what to do next, this could get sticky so I'll just crack a joke, preferably with an insult and they will all love me for it. IMO he is a disgrace.

JenniferEccles Thu 07-Oct-21 10:08:36

The thing is Greta he did get on to the serious stuff which of course constituted the vast majority of the speech.
The lighthearted jokes were just that, lighthearted. The Corbyn comment made me laugh out loud!

Or maybe you would have preferred him to have taken a leaf out of Angela Rayner’s book and talked about Labour scum?
Now THAT was shameful.

Alegrias1 Thu 07-Oct-21 10:15:31

The thing is Greta he did get on to the serious stuff which of course constituted the vast majority of the speech.

That's not really the case though, is it?

Greta Thu 07-Oct-21 10:19:24

I agree, the 'scum' comment was shameful. But that doesn't excuse our Prime Minister's constant so called 'jokes'.

westendgirl Thu 07-Oct-21 10:45:21

Lovely quote from the Times article."He sounded at times like a man standing at the bar in the first class lounge of the Titanic ordering another round of drinks and regaling his fellow-passengers with funny stories shortly just after midnight when it's just about come clear there aren't enough lifeboats. ".the article is headed" Boris the clown is wrong act for tough Times "
I don't remember hearing say exactly what he was going to do, apart from give a £3,000 premium to attract teachers to deprived areas, which would replace a similar scheme tried in 2019 and abandoned .
Plans, no but material for end of pier show, plenty.







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westendgirl Thu 07-Oct-21 10:46:12

Sorry , no idea what happened there. !

Kim19 Thu 07-Oct-21 10:47:08

I clearly recollect Urm suggesting there would be a bumpy road for a while after B. Seems she was correct.

Lovetopaint037 Thu 07-Oct-21 10:51:09

Just got a lot of hot air so far. Nothing sorted. Nothing planned to fix anything. Just happy optimism relayed in true Churchill acted out fashion. As usual jokes are the way through because that is his forte.

MaizieD Thu 07-Oct-21 10:55:54

Kim19

I clearly recollect Urm suggesting there would be a bumpy road for a while after B. Seems she was correct.

I don't even recall her being on Gnet before the referendum, let alone making predictions of 'bumpy roads ahead'.

(I'd only respect a prediction of 'bumpy road' made in the run up to the ref. not at any time after it)

Whitewavemark2 Thu 07-Oct-21 11:09:56

It seems then that project fear was the plan all along. Weird how the Brexiters on here rubbished everything we were saying at the time, but are now saying that they always knew this would happen..

They seem to be taking a leaf out of their beloved leaders book and telling porkies.

Alegrias1 Thu 07-Oct-21 11:13:01

This is interesting reading.

Suck it up, losers. Bags of nuts and "proper" light bulbs.

So it was all worth it, then.

www.gransnet.com/forums/chat/1227226-we-are-leaving-yipee

Alegrias1 Thu 07-Oct-21 11:19:43

We live in hope.

MaizieD Thu 07-Oct-21 11:19:53

That was a blast from the past, Alegrias. A few familiar but now absent names there!

Note 'it will be bumpy' on the day after the ref.

Alegrias1 Thu 07-Oct-21 11:22:03

Yes, I remember the day after the referendum Farage telling us there wouldn't be £350million every day for the NHS after all.

Captain Hindsight, eh?

MaizieD Thu 07-Oct-21 11:25:08

Alegrias1

Yes, I remember the day after the referendum Farage telling us there wouldn't be £350million every day for the NHS after all.

Captain Hindsight, eh?

To be fair, did he ever promise that?

I thought that was Vote Leave and they and Farage didn't see eye to eye.

OTH, I think he told the fishing industry that a prosperous new future awaited them....

Alegrias1 Thu 07-Oct-21 11:28:16

I believe you're correct MaizieD. But while it was convenient to ignore it, he didn't say anything. Just on the day after.

growstuff Thu 07-Oct-21 11:29:04

This post was certainly written with foresight:

Pity us in N. Ireland. The majority of the country voted to remain. Now we are faced with the prospect of a return to border control and producing a passport to drive a few miles/kilometres down the road. We have benefitted tremendously from EU grants to agriculture, research, social development and reconciliation projects.

Thanks England and Wales!

Urmstongran Thu 07-Oct-21 13:06:23

But England was a net contributor to the EU.
Which is maybe a reason England voted to Brexit.
NI was not. No wonder they are missing largesse from them!

Alegrias1 Thu 07-Oct-21 13:17:59

Urmstongran

But England was a net contributor to the EU.
Which is maybe a reason England voted to Brexit.
NI was not. No wonder they are missing largesse from them!

Are you having us on Urmstongran? Really, are you having us on?

What about Cornwall, were they net contributors? They voted overwhelmingly to Leave, I believe.

Honest to God, just when you think it can't get any dafter....

growstuff Thu 07-Oct-21 13:24:33

Many areas of England were not net contributors. There's an almost inverse correlation between the areas which contribute to the UK's net wealth and voting to leave.

Northern Ireland's vote was split between Belfast and the border areas, who realised the advantages that the EU had brought to cross-border trade and peace.

growstuff Thu 07-Oct-21 13:28:52

This is the map of the UK Urmstongran seems to want.

I wonder what the union flag will look like without Scotland's blue?

growstuff Thu 07-Oct-21 13:30:31

It's not quite the same.

Dinahmo Thu 07-Oct-21 13:30:44

A caller to J Vine this am - described himself as working class and couldn't get a mortgage - said Johnson was going to pay him more.

Last night on Newsnight an economist said that if pay goes up productivity has to go up too. Does this mean that the people who provide services such as bin collectors or road sweepers have to collect more bins or sweep greater distances during their working week?

I remember when Thatcher, in the first budget after her election victory in 1979, reduced the highest rate of income tax from 83% to 60%. A certain William Rees-Mogg wrote a column in his newspaper, thanking her on behalf of himself and his friends, in which he said that they would sit back and accept the benefit but it wouldn't make them work any harder.

Following his example why shouldn't workers just accept any increase?

Alegrias1 Thu 07-Oct-21 13:32:24

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25205017

I like number 5 growstuff, very cheerful

Dinahmo Thu 07-Oct-21 13:32:46

Urmstongran

But England was a net contributor to the EU.
Which is maybe a reason England voted to Brexit.
NI was not. No wonder they are missing largesse from them!

True, we were a net contributor but we also received millions in grants for research, culture, historical buildings etc etc etc.