Conservative party conference outcomes

It's more likely that if wages go up, there will be fewer collections and/or there's more incentive to find ways of automating collections.

The financial winners will be the clever people who develop robotic bin lorries.

Alegrias1

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25205017

I like number 5 growstuff, very cheerful

I think it looks like a Victorian tea cup pattern.

The financial winners will be the clever people who develop robotic bin lorries.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJSHXr8i-ZU

The Swedes.

growstuff

Alegrias1

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25205017

I like number 5 growstuff, very cheerful

I think it looks like a Victorian tea cup pattern.

How appropriate. Victorian values

Dinahmo

Urmstongran

But England was a net contributor to the EU.
Which is maybe a reason England voted to Brexit.
NI was not. No wonder they are missing largesse from them!

True, we were a net contributor but we also received millions in grants for research, culture, historical buildings etc etc etc.

The UK as a whole was a net contributor, but many areas received billions in support. Those areas were promised that grants would be replaced. The pittance some of them have been offered (if they voted Conservative) falls far short of what they've lost.

Alegrias1

^The financial winners will be the clever people who develop robotic bin lorries.^

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJSHXr8i-ZU

The Swedes.

Interesting! It won't be long before the UK has them.

Only one driver - and even he/she wouldn't be needed if the trucks were fitted with sensors to pick up the bins.

Great if you're clever and techy, but what jobs will there be for those not so gifted? We're going to end up with a society of clever inventors and the "rest", who will need to do the menial jobs (if there are enough jobs left). I can seriously see us ending up with gated communities.

I wonder if those who think pay for the lowest pay is going to increase realise that the message from the Tory conference was actually to get off their butts and work harder and get themselves a better education.

Of course, that poor guy who confronted Rees Mogg realises that the strategy doesn't always work, unless you're one of the chosen ones.

I would challenge anyone to look at that video and say which of the two protagonists was the more honourable, the more honest, the more deserving, the more principled and the more intelligent of the two.

The last straw for me is BJ apparently saying that years of 'difficulties' before his vision kicks in is what the country voted for. It most certainly did not. Voters were told that leaving the EU would be the easiest thing ever. Britain would be able to pick and choose its new trading partners, starting with the US - nothing easier. No problem with Ireland that couldn't be solved with new technology (so new it's still not in existence). All with just a 'bumpy' few months. That is what voters were promised and that is what the tories will be judged on.

The Leave voters were lied to.

Boris Johnson is a proven liar who has actually been sacked twice for lying.

The most depressing comment I've heard about the state of British politics is that there is no point in opposition parties pointing out Johnson's lies to the electorate because the fact that he is a habitual liar has been "priced in"

Huffpost has reported Andrew Neil's interview with LBC under the Headline: "Neil Slams Boris Johnson"

Neil said the public had an “expectation we’d get some policy now” as the pandemic has subsided and as the UK is being plunged into crisis after crisis.

Neil pointed out: “This winter we’re going into a serious cost of living crisis which will hit the poorest most of all, we don’t know when the shortages on the supermarket shelves or the petrol forecourts will end.

"We don’t know what the policy is on social care, we don’t know what the policy is on the NHS, other than to bung it more money, and we don’t know what ‘levelling up’ means."

The political pundit continued: “We have a right to know what the policies are, and to know if we have these been implemented yet."(sic)

Perth Australia has one man bin lorries. You have to put the bin out correctly so it's picked up mechanically, the contents are tipped into the lorry and the empty bin is placed back on the ground.

Very clever and we did wonder at the time, 2.5 years ago if it would ever catch on here.

For every bin man that drives the lorry there will be at least 2 that will be out of work.

Dinahmo

For every bin man that drives the lorry there will be at least 2 that will be out of work.

But the average income of those still employed might increase.

I’m being brave tonight and watching QT. Can anyone tell me when we were told that part of the brexit plan was to create a high skill high wage society! I know my memory is pretty rubbish these days but I’m sure this has only been mentioned in the last few weeks (if that long). Or has this really been the plan for a long time and I missed it (due to not watching QT for a year or so).

It is not your memory, it is all part of the mass gas lighting of the electorate. I thought I was going to develop an aneurysm listening to Zadawi.

MayBee70

I’m being brave tonight and watching QT. Can anyone tell me when we were told that part of the brexit plan was to create a high skill high wage society! I know my memory is pretty rubbish these days but I’m sure this has only been mentioned in the last few weeks (if that long). Or has this really been the plan for a long time and I missed it (due to not watching QT for a year or so).

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36139282#

I've found this which shows that someone somewhere had a back of a fag packet dream that this might work. I can't imagine for one moment that anyone had what might be thought of as a plan. If so we've yet to see it haven't we.

It seems Vote Leave had a hope based on the unscientific observation that immigration up = wages down. Immigration down = wages up. A nice selling point based on nothing.

The article also mentions that wages up = prices up = wages buy less = nobody is better off.

MayBee70

I’m being brave tonight and watching QT. Can anyone tell me when we were told that part of the brexit plan was to create a high skill high wage society! I know my memory is pretty rubbish these days but I’m sure this has only been mentioned in the last few weeks (if that long). Or has this really been the plan for a long time and I missed it (due to not watching QT for a year or so).

I think if they had chimed that one out, we would remember it MayBee.

I don't think they could have done. Saying that would have led to people asking what their plan was to achieve this nirvana after Brexit was "done".

There is no chance on the evidence of the last two years that they would ever have planned for anything.

They know they would have been challenged on such a declaration; they would never have said it.

No, he/they never ever said it- that is clear.

But the arrogance, the sheer hypocrisy and worse- of now pretending it was the plan all along is just sick. and I truly hope the vast majorty of people will see it for what it is.

Bar 1 or 2 on GN, but that's ok.

There never was a brexit plan.

There was a plan to con people into voting Leave, but absolutely no plan for what would happen next.

Indeed, so when people say 'its done and dusted, accept it'

done and dusted what, how ? Nobody knew then, and nobody knows now- almost half a decade later !!!

But it is certainly looking VERY massively different to what was promised- now that we know for sure!

Broccoli pickers (now called operatives) can earn £30 p.h. in Burton. And not just short term contracts! It’s a heavily Brexit-voting town. Residents are delighted hoping the higher wages will mean locals have more to spend in their town centre. Good news surely?

And before anyone jumps in to say ‘what about the increased cost - maybe - of my 60p head of broccoli’ ... maybe it’s time to value our workers a bit more. It can’t be morally right to buy cheap veg from Morrison’s or Asda knowing that some poor sod has worked full time in the fields to get it for you and that worker is struggling to make a decent living.

You do sound very left wing now, lol!

It's a hard balance- you do understand inflation, I hope.

I don’t remember people talking about broccoli operatives 5 years ago or desperately wanting brexit to happen so they could pay more for their food. Again, I think it must be my dodgy memory playing up again…..

Excellent piecework rates with potential to earn up to £30 per hour and all year round work available.

Hmm... piecework....potential to earn....up to £30... ok

I guess people who believed Brexit was a good idea might believe they're going to get steady work at fabulous rates...

www.in2town.co.uk/boston-lincs-news/boston-lincolnshire-farm-offers-30-an-hour-to-pick-broccoli/