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Scones Sun 03-Oct-21 09:39:12

The PM has said "big, bold decisions" are needed" and it would be interesting to hear what Conservative voters are hoping for.

Kali2 Sat 09-Oct-21 11:30:42

Urmstongran

I hope so too Kali2. I voted in good faith (as did everyone) according to my conscience. I researched, read a lot of articles from various sources and experts in their fields. I wasn’t influenced by Facebook (I have never joined).

Even the experts disagree! Even now. Time will tell I suppose.

I'm sure you did - and of course the information given was pure lies or based on lies.

Time will tell - yes, I think it has started in earnest, time is telling, right now.

But you can't deny that warnings were given, again and again, by the best experts in the field - and just dismissed as 'project fear'. Even Prof Dougan of Liverpool Uni with this decades of experience and massive knowledge of international Law and business.

Rosycheeks Sat 09-Oct-21 11:41:41

Oh Kali2 have you got nothing better to do then write all the time on these posts. I myself have a fullfilling life.

Alegrias1 Sat 09-Oct-21 11:48:23

Rosycheeks

Oh Kali2 have you got nothing better to do then write all the time on these posts. I myself have a fullfilling life.

I've just been defending the politics threads as the bastion of good debate.

Then we get this.

Time for lunch, I think

Urmstongran Sat 09-Oct-21 11:56:18

I suppose Kali2 that the scores of prominent experts saying Scotland ought to remain as part of the UK won’t be listened to either by those wishing independence?

Sometimes it comes down to feelings. Not just money it seems. Even though a decision impacts on all the citizens, some people will feel annoyed & say ‘we told you so’ if the vote doesn’t go their way. Which is totally understandable.

Scotland will be another litmus test won’t it Alegrias?

GillT57 Sat 09-Oct-21 11:57:01

It's ok rosycheeks is just on a quick break from their £30 an hour broccoli picking.

Urmstongran Sat 09-Oct-21 11:58:11

X posts Alegrias!
Come back after lunch perhaps?
?

Kali2 Sat 09-Oct-21 11:59:56

Rosycheeks

Oh Kali2 have you got nothing better to do then write all the time on these posts. I myself have a fullfilling life.

Oh I have, oh I do ... don't worry about me.

Where on earth did you find the time, and the ... (can't find the right word here) to write this sad and unpleasant post, I wonder.

MaizieD Sat 09-Oct-21 12:05:52

Kali2

Rosycheeks

Oh Kali2 have you got nothing better to do then write all the time on these posts. I myself have a fullfilling life.

Oh I have, oh I do ... don't worry about me.

Where on earth did you find the time, and the ... (can't find the right word here) to write this sad and unpleasant post, I wonder.

Agent provocateur, perhaps?

Now she can go back to another thread and verify how nasty the left wing clique on the Politics threads are hmm

What fun Gnet is this morning...

Kali2 Sat 09-Oct-21 12:22:45

Oh I see- probably right. Is there a particular thread I should be aware of? Probably going around in pms?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 09-Oct-21 12:30:34

Kali2

Oh I see- probably right. Is there a particular thread I should be aware of? Probably going around in pms?

Thinking about the law and the EU (as you do in the shower) I think in fact that the U.K. businesses have much less rights than they did before brexit.

During our membership of the EU British business regularly took governments to the ECJ claiming unfair business practice. Sometimes they won sometimes not.

Now they have no recourse to law over the way this government is behaving. So the extremely unfair practice of allowing EU business to import without hinderance whilst U.K. businesses have the full panoply of eu law to comply with cannot be challenged in U.K. courts.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 09-Oct-21 12:31:40

Oh sorry I was going to answer your comment, but really think that silly behaviour on other threads is best ignored.

Kali2 Sat 09-Oct-21 12:32:41

Urmstongran '' Even though a decision impacts on all the citizens, some people will feel annoyed & say ‘we told you so’ if the vote doesn’t go their way. Which is totally understandable.''

of course. The problem here is the opposite in fact - many of us can see that 'project fear' has turned out exactly as we expected. And sadly that does not go 'the way of anyone' - we are all losers here, however we voted in the Referendum. And especially young people, who made the massive mistake not to vote, and all those youngsters who are now able to vote and were not at the time. It is their future which is catastrophically being screwed up.

At least my children and grand-children have the opt-out button at anytime. Most do not.

Kali2 Sat 09-Oct-21 12:39:25

Whitewavemark2

Oh sorry I was going to answer your comment, but really think that silly behaviour on other threads is best ignored.

Probably right - they won't succeed this time.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 09-Oct-21 12:42:15

Kali2

Whitewavemark2

Oh sorry I was going to answer your comment, but really think that silly behaviour on other threads is best ignored.

Probably right - they won't succeed this time.

Be assured it isn’t about you so you are being left alone this time?

Alegrias1 Sat 09-Oct-21 12:45:07

Urmstongran

I suppose Kali2 that the scores of prominent experts saying Scotland ought to remain as part of the UK won’t be listened to either by those wishing independence?

Sometimes it comes down to feelings. Not just money it seems. Even though a decision impacts on all the citizens, some people will feel annoyed & say ‘we told you so’ if the vote doesn’t go their way. Which is totally understandable.

Scotland will be another litmus test won’t it Alegrias?

I listen to them, and make assessments of their vested interests and biases, same as I do with the people saying Scotland can do fine on its own.

You're right Urmstongran, sometimes it doesn't come down to money. I wish more Tories understood that. I was disappointed in 2014, but never alleged dirty tricks or lack of critical thought on the part of the people who voted differently to me, because I can see their viewpoint. Leavers now, a different story. No excuse at all apart from not really understanding how the world works. Or not caring, because they are only interested in what makes them rich.

There's extremism on both sides. Have a look at the National's front page now and again if you want a good laugh. wink

Kali2 Sat 09-Oct-21 13:29:27

Our decision to vote Remain had nothing to do with money- zilch, zero, rien, niente, nada, nichts!

But if the Pound tanks, as is predicted by all financial experts- we will be in deep doo doo. But we will be OK, we always will- unlike 1000s and 1000s of families who will truly suffer, the children too.

As said, before, mine will always had the choice to opt out, any time. Most won't- Brexit has made sure of that!

Kali2 Sat 09-Oct-21 13:49:03

Public service announcement:

Deadly E.coli bacteria has been found in water treatment works supplying 443 post code areas.
Boil your water before drinking folks.
Nothing to do with shortage of water treatment chemicals post Brexit and dumping raw sewage into waterways - I suppose !?!

Alegrias1 Sat 09-Oct-21 13:52:42

Refers to Kent and Surrey.

No panicking in Edinburgh or Cardiff, please. Or even Thorpe Bay.

JaneJudge Sat 09-Oct-21 14:00:59

I'd never heard of Thorpe Bay until I joined Gransnet

Kali2 Sat 09-Oct-21 14:21:22

Ah that's OK then, only where my grandchildren live- as long as ... hey!

Is that where Jeremy lived ?

Alegrias1 Sat 09-Oct-21 14:29:18

Obviously its an issue for Kent and Surrey Kali2.

But look what happened the last time there was a supply issue with certain liquids in the South East...

Kali2 Sat 09-Oct-21 14:31:41

Oh I know- in the meantime, back to Conference.

Yes, he swears a lot, and it does offend some people. But I will share (with a warning) because he is, spot on, as usual- Jonathan Pie's take

fb.watch/8xkxnvHR4o/

Kali2 Sat 09-Oct-21 14:32:47

The South East is where private water companies have been pouring raw sewage into the sea, btw.

Please please the Petition about raw sewage, please.

Josianne Sat 09-Oct-21 14:33:11

Kali2

Public service announcement:

Deadly E.coli bacteria has been found in water treatment works supplying 443 post code areas.
Boil your water before drinking folks.
Nothing to do with shortage of water treatment chemicals post Brexit and dumping raw sewage into waterways - I suppose !?!

ew and yuk ... see my use of letters!
My son is an avid surfer, paddler. We had this problem at the beginning of the week in Devon. You can go on a App to check. It only lasted 24 hours due to storm.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 09-Oct-21 14:49:37

Kali2

Public service announcement:

Deadly E.coli bacteria has been found in water treatment works supplying 443 post code areas.
Boil your water before drinking folks.
Nothing to do with shortage of water treatment chemicals post Brexit and dumping raw sewage into waterways - I suppose !?!

It is everything to do with that!