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Who is paying for it then?

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Kali2 Mon 11-Oct-21 17:16:02

Boris Johnson’s spokesman repeatedly refused on Monday to confirm who has paid for Boris Johnson’s holiday to Marbella and won't say whether the Prime Minister has paid for his own holiday or who else has funded it.

Pushed on the question, Downing Street would only say that the prime minister would disclose any donations he has received, if required to do so, at a later date.

The caginess from Johnson’s spokesman follows reports that the prime minister is currently staying at a villa owned by the Conservative peer Zac Goldsmith.

Goldsmith, who is a close friend of both Johnson and his wife, was handed a peerage by Johnson, despite having been rejected by voters three times in just four years.''

Does anyone know- how many holidays has the PM had since he became PM!

Witzend Tue 12-Oct-21 11:06:54

TBH if it had been a villa belonging to some dodgy oligarch then I’d certainly be worked up about it. But it doesn’t, so I can’t.

Might add that (whatever anyone thinks of the Tories) Zac Goldsmith was our MP and was an excellent and very active constituency MP, who replied very promptly to any email and frequently held public evening meetings where anyone could air views or ask questions. I never went but dh went to several.

In this constituency it’s always a pretty close toss up between Tories/LDs - Labour come nowhere. IIRC in the previous GE the LD candidate lost (after more than one recount) by only 50 odd votes.

GillT57 Tue 12-Oct-21 11:08:30

Are you every bit as interested in the holiday plans of your own head of government in Switzerland or is it just our government and PM you are obsessed with. Who are you asking? Who has a head of government in Switzerland? I am confused.

Dinahmo Tue 12-Oct-21 11:12:53

I expect several on here have friends with holiday homes, whether it's an apartment on the Costa del Sol, a cottage in Wales or in France, Italy or wherever. I also expect that those friends will let you use them without a charge apart from maybe contributing towards the cost of utilities.

By borrowing said holiday home, we are receiving a gift or a benefit. If said friends also let their holiday homes out on a commercial basis then they should be apportioning the upkeep costs between the commercially let periods and the rest of the time when the property is either empty or used by friends and family.

One way in which the rich stay rich is to find ways and means of covering their expenses. Even very wealthy film stars let their homes (for vast rents).

growstuff Tue 12-Oct-21 11:15:22

Witzend

TBH if it had been a villa belonging to some dodgy oligarch then I’d certainly be worked up about it. But it doesn’t, so I can’t.

Might add that (whatever anyone thinks of the Tories) Zac Goldsmith was our MP and was an excellent and very active constituency MP, who replied very promptly to any email and frequently held public evening meetings where anyone could air views or ask questions. I never went but dh went to several.

In this constituency it’s always a pretty close toss up between Tories/LDs - Labour come nowhere. IIRC in the previous GE the LD candidate lost (after more than one recount) by only 50 odd votes.

But the fact remains that he was voted out more than once and was given a peerage. At the very least, it smacks of cronyism and has a whiff of "cash for questions" about it.

growstuff Tue 12-Oct-21 11:18:03

Chestnut

^There must be thousands of women in this country expecting their 2nd child but they don't have a cook, a cleaner, a nanny and are not chauffered everywhere by car.^
And your point is?
Should we give ALL these women the money to enable them to have these things?

It would prove some kind of commitment to "levelling up". Decent maternity services and post-natal support would be a start.

Dinahmo Tue 12-Oct-21 11:21:32

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Callistemon Tue 12-Oct-21 11:23:24

One way in which the rich stay rich is to find ways and means of covering their expenses. Even very wealthy film stars let their homes (for vast rents).

Money makes money!

MayBeMaw Tue 12-Oct-21 11:57:12

It all seems a bit silly to obsess about BJ when he is doing what heads of government (or state) everywhere seem to have have done forever - not saying it is right, but I think OP - you should choose your battles.
Last word

Gwyneth Tue 12-Oct-21 11:59:35

??my last word too. I have a life outside of Boris.

MayBee70 Tue 12-Oct-21 12:07:47

But everything in your life and mine is affected by his actions ( or lack of them)…..

Josianne Tue 12-Oct-21 12:33:19

Irrespective of whether Boris should be away on holiday rather than leading from Number 10, the answer to the question, "Who is paying for it?", is the owner of course. It's certainly not a peak week, and half term bookings are a few weeks off yet. The property would be standing idle anyway and charges like utilities, taxes and insurance are paid annually. It makes no real odds.
Someone mentioned cleaning, laundry and bed making. Really? We allowed friends to use our properties free of charge, but how churlish would it have been to say, "give us £100 for the cleaning, oh yes and £60 for the linen, and £20 for the logs you use." We even left the car keys for them to go out and about.
Whether in Boris's case the owner is out for something else in return, we don't know. Maybe he is just a good mate.

MayBee70 Tue 12-Oct-21 12:36:02

Isn’t your he a good mate that was given a peerage even though he’d stood for election several times and the electorate hadn’t voted for him (please correct me if I’m wrong as I’m going from memory here).

MerylStreep Tue 12-Oct-21 12:52:04

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Maudi Tue 12-Oct-21 13:09:43

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JenniferEccles Tue 12-Oct-21 13:22:45

If all these ‘thousands of women in this country expecting another child’ are so desperately hard up as you are implying, dolphindaisy why are they putting themselves more in debt by adding to their family?

Oh yes I forgot. Only having the size of family they can afford, is, amazingly, an alien concept with some on GN.

Pammie1 ?

Witzend Tue 12-Oct-21 13:23:16

growstuff

Witzend

TBH if it had been a villa belonging to some dodgy oligarch then I’d certainly be worked up about it. But it doesn’t, so I can’t.

Might add that (whatever anyone thinks of the Tories) Zac Goldsmith was our MP and was an excellent and very active constituency MP, who replied very promptly to any email and frequently held public evening meetings where anyone could air views or ask questions. I never went but dh went to several.

In this constituency it’s always a pretty close toss up between Tories/LDs - Labour come nowhere. IIRC in the previous GE the LD candidate lost (after more than one recount) by only 50 odd votes.

But the fact remains that he was voted out more than once and was given a peerage. At the very least, it smacks of cronyism and has a whiff of "cash for questions" about it.

Have there never been peerages for Labour MPs who’d lost their seats? Genuine question, I don’t know.

As regards jobs for the boys, though, I’m not sure there’s much to beat Neil Kinnock and Peter Mandelson swanning off to extremely lucrative jobs in Brussels.

Alegrias1 Tue 12-Oct-21 13:29:43

JenniferEccles

If all these ‘thousands of women in this country expecting another child’ are so desperately hard up as you are implying, dolphindaisy why are they putting themselves more in debt by adding to their family?

Oh yes I forgot. Only having the size of family they can afford, is, amazingly, an alien concept with some on GN.

Pammie1 ?

Dear me.

Boris apparently can't live on his paltry PM's salary. Yet they are having more children. That's OK, is it? Oh yes, he's posh, of course.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 12-Oct-21 13:31:43

Josianne

Maudi

Yes any poster from anywhere can post on this forum but why if you live in Switzerland are you bothered about Boris?

Because maybe you have children and grandchildren in the UK?

Maybe because she is British. Not that it makes an iota of difference. I have opinions about other leaders and their actions.

3nanny6 Tue 12-Oct-21 13:37:50

Is he having a lovely holiday? It's amazing he has buggered off
a fine time to have a holiday with the complete crisis the country is in. Haulage problems gas problems closing down of businesses if they don't get money in the next couple of weeks, and the £20 per week off Universal credit just starting which will make it difficult for mothers to FEED THE CHILDREN in half term and also run up to Christmas.
I wish I could take a weeks holiday even in England that would be good too busy keeping up with the rising cost of food and paying my energy bills so it will probably be a pound of sausages and onion gravy for Christmas day.

growstuff Tue 12-Oct-21 13:47:14

Witzend I expect there were, but I'm sure I remember being told that two wrongs don't make a right.

Josianne Tue 12-Oct-21 13:51:43

I think the £20 a week was the right thing in the circumstances. I do think it was taken away again far too soon. However, I don't think it was ever intended to be forever.

MayBeMaw Tue 12-Oct-21 15:28:27

Borace wimp

I know it's going back a bit JaneJudge but I didnt understand this ???

Callistemon Tue 12-Oct-21 15:32:12

Yet again I miss all the fun deleted posts!