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Who is paying for it then?

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Kali2 Mon 11-Oct-21 17:16:02

Boris Johnson’s spokesman repeatedly refused on Monday to confirm who has paid for Boris Johnson’s holiday to Marbella and won't say whether the Prime Minister has paid for his own holiday or who else has funded it.

Pushed on the question, Downing Street would only say that the prime minister would disclose any donations he has received, if required to do so, at a later date.

The caginess from Johnson’s spokesman follows reports that the prime minister is currently staying at a villa owned by the Conservative peer Zac Goldsmith.

Goldsmith, who is a close friend of both Johnson and his wife, was handed a peerage by Johnson, despite having been rejected by voters three times in just four years.''

Does anyone know- how many holidays has the PM had since he became PM!

Lucca Tue 12-Oct-21 09:08:04

Gwyneth

What baffles me is if the PM is so ineffective why aren’t supporters of the opposition, which seem to be the majority on this site, posting every second about how brilliant people like Starmer, Davy et al are performing. Surely as the PM is so ineffective, it’s a golden opportunity to ‘sing their praises’ and recount all the amazing things that they do and yet they are barely mentioned. So why isn’t this happening?

I don’t see the connection ? Starmer is not in power.

Pammie1 Tue 12-Oct-21 09:15:10

* The PM’s wife is expecting their second child in a couple of months so this is probably their last opportunity to fly abroad for a well deserved holiday.*

FFS !!!

Mollygo Tue 12-Oct-21 09:21:11

Callistemon

^But what has he actually achieved during his PM’ship?^
I nothing, then it won't matter if he goes on holiday for a week.

To an EU country.

Same old, same old-criticising the PM-and I can and do for many things, is the name of the game. At least him going on holiday has given a new aspect to criticise.
Callistemon I love your post. If. . .

Incidentally, I didn’t know voting remain or leave meant we should despise European countries and shouldn’t visit them anymore.
Perhaps I’d better cancel my imminent break.

JaneJudge Tue 12-Oct-21 09:22:19

Those saying he will declare it must have very short memories.

this was only March

I was actually thinking of his flat but ^ is worse

Kali2 Tue 12-Oct-21 09:27:43

JaneJudge

Callistemon

JaneJudge

it costs 25k a week, I think it is fair to ask who is paying for it hen there are multiple posts resenting paying for social care for vulnerable people!

But if it belongs to "a friend" who has loaned it no-one is paying, the friend has lost £25,000, if that is the cost. It might have stayed empty anyway if no-one had booked it this week.

As someone in another group pointed out Marbella is where all the crooks hide out so at least he's chosen the right place.
Yes, we've stayed there a few times!

surely gifting could be manipulation or even bribery ???or even <gasp> laundering

most other people in professions are subjected to ethical frameworks and admissions.

Especially when you have just been given a Peerage.

MaizieD Tue 12-Oct-21 09:27:50

Pammie1

* The PM’s wife is expecting their second child in a couple of months so this is probably their last opportunity to fly abroad for a well deserved holiday.*

FFS !!!

Yes, I was 'somewhat surprised' at this.

Of course, we all went on holiday just before our second children were born. It's what you do, isn't it?

They have their first child with them, presumably? Or has little Wilfred been left at home so as not to interfere with their holiday?

That is one of the saddest excuses for our idle PM I've heard in a long while...

MaizieD Tue 12-Oct-21 09:28:48

Especially when you have just been given a Peerage.

Payback time, Kali2 grin

Lucca Tue 12-Oct-21 09:28:56

Pammie1

* The PM’s wife is expecting their second child in a couple of months so this is probably their last opportunity to fly abroad for a well deserved holiday.*

FFS !!!

Is it well deserved for getting pregnant ? ?

Lollin Tue 12-Oct-21 09:31:28

Staycation obviously not grand enough

Kali2 Tue 12-Oct-21 09:34:03

£15000 is a lot of money- and smacks of 'let them eat cake'.

Goldsmith is not 'just a friend' - he is a very influential man to whom he has give a Peerage. And as said above, it is not the first time serious questions have been asked about gifts, whether other exotic and hugely expensive holidays, or home decoration, etc. all linked to other very powerful and rich people with a political agenda, and Russian oligarchs who seem to be funding the Tory party.

It is not 'just a holiday', it not 'just any friend' and it is not 'just any time' ...

Pammie1 Tue 12-Oct-21 09:42:08

@Lucca. Boris’s supporters should take heart - he obviously doesn’t collapse into bed exhausted EVERY night does he ? ?

Granny23 Tue 12-Oct-21 09:47:47

Regardless of your job we are all entitled to a holiday - tell that to all the unpaid 24/7 carers, self employed and Zero Hours workers (who have no income while they take a break).

My other thought is a what if? - the one that stops most of us even contemplating going abroad. What if there is a lock down, cancelled flights, closed borders, a massive outbreak where we are holidaying and we are stuck, unable to return home? Of course that would not apply to Boris - We would all chip in for a plane to bring him home.

lemongrove Tue 12-Oct-21 09:51:35

MayBeMaw

Is the objection to
1) who paid for/offered the holiday
2) the timing of said holiday
3) how many holidays Johnson has had?
I think #3 has been addressed as need not concern anybody.
And #1 and #2 are not unique to Boris Johnson.
Have we forgotten Tony Blair’s holidays?
In August 2003 Tony Blair stayed in Sir Cliff Richard's Barbados holiday home. The singer later revealed he had offered the Caribbean villa, where Mr Blair and his family stayed for three weeks, because the prime minister looked so "gaunt and tired" as debate raged about the Iraq war.
(Timing? Crisis? Oh yes, we were being dragged into a war with Iraq weren’t we?)

The following year Mr Blair stayed at the Sardinian villa of Italian counterpart Silvio Berlusconi, reportedly leaving him hobbling after a challenge in a "friendly" football match.
I am sure we all remember how Silvio Berlusconi was one of the sleaziest characters in European politics then and since.

Another Italian villa he stayed at was in Tuscany, and owned by Labour MP and former paymaster general Geoffrey Robinson. Did Robinson owe his position to the PM at the time? I wonder.
So noses in the trough do not only apply to the Tory party.. But if it entertains anybody to obsess about BJ and passes the time - feel free

But the OP doesn’t care about anyone else.....only Johnson.
The reason....he got Brexit done.That’s all this thread is really about.?
Actually the OP is worded ‘who’s paying for it’ and that has already been answered, it’s loaned by a friend.This is so public that if it needs to be declared then it will be.

lemongrove Tue 12-Oct-21 09:55:06

Granny23 thousands of British people have travelled abroad for a holiday this Summer.

dolphindaisy Tue 12-Oct-21 09:56:59

"The PM’s wife is expecting their second child in a couple of months so this is probably their last opportunity to fly abroad for a well deserved holiday."

There must be thousands of women in this country expecting their 2nd child but they don't have a cook, a cleaner, a nanny and are not chauffered everywhere by car. Many of them will be on Universal Credit and facing rising food and gas prices while losing £20 a week, I'm sure they would love a holiday in a 25K a week villa in Spain!

Dominic Raab was sunbathing in Crete when Kabul fell and Johnson is holidaying in Spain while the country is in Crisis - there's a pattern emerging here.

As for mentioning the Blairs (inevitable on GN) why stop there? why not go back to Wilson and the Scilly Isles, Ted Heath and his yacht, Churchill painting in Madeira? If Johnson needed a holiday he really should have stayed in the UK, I'm sure he has plenty of rich friends with country mansions.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 12-Oct-21 10:08:51

Ken Clarke
@MrKennethClarke
·
Oct 11
Text from Boris Johnson:

‘It’s so relaxing here. Taking in the stunning views, the warm sunshine, swimming in the private pool, shelves bursting at the seams with food in the shops and petrol readily available.’

Callistemon Tue 12-Oct-21 10:20:16

Whitewavemark2

Ken Clarke
@MrKennethClarke
·
Oct 11
Text from Boris Johnson:

‘It’s so relaxing here. Taking in the stunning views, the warm sunshine, swimming in the private pool, shelves bursting at the seams with food in the shops and petrol readily available.’

Sounds like home in Wales (except we only have a garden pond, not a swimming pool)
?

Callistemon Tue 12-Oct-21 10:23:36

Ps I just need an obliging Spanish housekeeper to instruct the laundry maid to hang out the sheets in the lovely sunshine while I put my feet up.
?

Mollygo Tue 12-Oct-21 10:34:41

Callistemon

Ps I just need an obliging Spanish housekeeper to instruct the laundry maid to hang out the sheets in the lovely sunshine while I put my feet up.
?

As long as she remakes the beds! I’d rather hang sheets out than make beds!?

Chestnut Tue 12-Oct-21 10:35:47

There must be thousands of women in this country expecting their 2nd child but they don't have a cook, a cleaner, a nanny and are not chauffered everywhere by car.
And your point is?
Should we give ALL these women the money to enable them to have these things?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 12-Oct-21 10:42:21

Chestnut

^There must be thousands of women in this country expecting their 2nd child but they don't have a cook, a cleaner, a nanny and are not chauffered everywhere by car.^
And your point is?
Should we give ALL these women the money to enable them to have these things?

I think the point being that a week after taking £20 away from the poorest and watching as 1.5million people were pushed into fuel poverty this month into having to decide whether to keep warm or eat - dashing off on a luxury holiday whilst the country faces the worst problems in a life time.

Not good optics is it?

Callistemon Tue 12-Oct-21 10:47:25

As long as she remakes the beds! I’d rather hang sheets out than make beds!?

Me too.

Chestnut Tue 12-Oct-21 10:51:15

Whitewavemark2

Chestnut

There must be thousands of women in this country expecting their 2nd child but they don't have a cook, a cleaner, a nanny and are not chauffered everywhere by car.
And your point is?
Should we give ALL these women the money to enable them to have these things?

I think the point being that a week after taking £20 away from the poorest and watching as 1.5million people were pushed into fuel poverty this month into having to decide whether to keep warm or eat - dashing off on a luxury holiday whilst the country faces the worst problems in a life time.

Not good optics is it?

I'm sure the country will still be facing those problems when he gets back. There is always one crisis or another, so does this mean he should never have a holiday?

Lucca Tue 12-Oct-21 10:59:46

Pammie1

@Lucca. Boris’s supporters should take heart - he obviously doesn’t collapse into bed exhausted EVERY night does he ? ?

Oh dear, totally unwanted image.

MaizieD Tue 12-Oct-21 11:01:38

so does this mean he should never have a holiday?

But he's already had more holidays than his predecessor in less time...

Did his hero Churchill go batting off on holiday every five minutes? (bigger crisis, admittedly)

There are those who might say that he's not really governing the country anyway; just leaves it to the rest of his ministers. In which case, why are we paying the idle layabout?