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Rees Mogg and filibustering….

(64 Posts)
MayBee70 Wed 03-Nov-21 14:41:02

Just watching him in Parliament. He’s now quoting Shakespeare……

growstuff Wed 03-Nov-21 19:05:09

If MPs truly believed the process is unfair, they had every right to discuss it and change it by following the correct procedures. By introducing the amendment at this time, it is directly linked to Paterson. Rees-Mogg's filibustering was a disgrace and I think anybody who can support it shows the morals of a toad.

Paterson should have served his suspension and then the process should have been reviewed, but not so it was deliberately timed to let him off. He broke the rules - there's no question about it.

growstuff Wed 03-Nov-21 19:06:15

Urmstongran

What this really comes down to is not the report, the committee, or the approval. If Patterson had never been born I would still think Stone should not be a standards commissioner.

Why? I bet you hadn't even heard of her before now. It's something you read somewhere.

GillT57 Wed 03-Nov-21 19:07:03

Paterson has been found guilty by his peers and the only question was whether the 30 day suspension was fair. He dredged new depths when he dragged the tragedy of his wife's suicide into the discussion. I have often, as you may have noticed, been critical of this Tory administration, but today they truly reached the bottom. Sadly,my MP who temporarily redeemed himself by voting against the "let them dump shit in the rivers without prosecution" bill, was the mealy mouthed apologist for Pattison on R4 this morning so I shall have to email him yet again. Any of our Tory supporters like to comment on or support this disgusting behaviour?

Urmstongran Wed 03-Nov-21 19:08:07

And what is wrong with reading something and then agreeing with the premis of the argument?

MaizieD Wed 03-Nov-21 19:11:14

Urmstongran

And what is wrong with reading something and then agreeing with the premis of the argument?

Perhaps you'd like to share what you have read with all of us, Ug. Then we can better judge the argument.

Jane71 Wed 03-Nov-21 19:13:44

I haven't followed all the details, but is an MP advocating on behalf of a company that is paying him, a good thing? Surely am MP should be advocating on behalf of his constituents rather than a company.
Did I read somewhere that he's paid £100,000 a year for his advocacy on top of his MP's salary. I call it greed, which is one of the things wrong with society.

Barmeyoldbat Wed 03-Nov-21 19:27:24

Not just society but the government as well

varian Wed 03-Nov-21 19:59:53

This undemocraticly elected government has plumbed new depths. History will judge them to be the pits, the sewers of corruption and lies.

Vito Wed 03-Nov-21 20:00:42

I haven't posted on here before,but have been a long time reader .
I cannot understand for the life of me how some people try to defend the indefensible. The man was suspended for breaking the rules, he is utterly immoral,it's the equivalent of being caught for shop lifting and not agreeing with the sentence and then having it redacted because your cronies also don't agree with the sentence,it's madness and yes Kafkaesque. This government has brought this country to its knees, the 32 billion it wasted on test and trace is brushed under the carpet, I mean 32 billion, you couldn't make it up. We have food banks, people going hungry, not letting the poorest in society to keep an extra £20 a week. Tonight I'm sad and depressed, I can't see a way out of this for a long long time our democracy is being destroyed.

varian Wed 03-Nov-21 20:03:58

What democracy?

We have only ever been a sham democracy, like Belarus, the only other undemocratic country in Europe which allows a government to be elected by a minority of voters.

GillT57 Wed 03-Nov-21 20:10:03

Actually Vito what depresses more than this stinking corrupt Tory government is the apologists who will excuse anything done by the administration they have foisted upon the rest of us. This is beyond party politics, it is about the rule of law, about morality and decency, and I am disgusted that anyone irrespective of their political beliefs can support this. What's next? A pissed MP getting the drink drive laws waived by his peers?

Vito Wed 03-Nov-21 20:21:49

Totally agree with you Gill. Brilliantly put.

Soroptimum Wed 03-Nov-21 20:43:20

I’m sorry, but I cannot believe how anyone could defend this government by saying the alternative would be no better i.e. Labour. How on earth could any other government be worse than this lying, corrupt and morally destitute bunch?

MayBee70 Wed 03-Nov-21 22:06:48

To be fair to the government they always made it clear that they intended to make themselves above the law but people still voted for them. Probably one of the one things they’ve been honest about confused We live in strange times.

growstuff Wed 03-Nov-21 22:36:57

I agree with you GillT57. The government is only as bad as the people who voted for it. It really is depressing that so many people appear to have such low values.

growstuff Wed 03-Nov-21 22:37:58

Well said Vito. It's probably not much consolation, but you're not alone.

MayBee70 Wed 03-Nov-21 23:41:48

It’ll be interesting to see how this gets reported in tomorrow’s press.

MayBee70 Wed 03-Nov-21 23:44:12

Sky News have just said the story of the day is the missing child in Australia. Not knocking the fact that that it’s wonderful that she’s been found but it’ll be used to push the Paterson story off the headlines.

growstuff Thu 04-Nov-21 00:05:22

Kathryn Stone will be smeared, there will be waffle about "natural justice" and Rose Paterson's suicide will be mentioned.

growstuff Thu 04-Nov-21 00:08:59

And do you know what? Enough people will be conned. Sleaze has become normalised. We'll just move on to the next mucky incident.

TopsyIrene06 Thu 04-Nov-21 07:38:50

Vito you hit the nail on the head.

I just wish I could see a time when it is acknowledged that emperor is definitely naked.

TopsyIrene06 Thu 04-Nov-21 07:39:31

"the" emperor.

Barmeyoldbat Thu 04-Nov-21 08:51:30

Well said Vito and I don’t believe for one minute that any party could be as bad or worse than this shameless lot.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 04-Nov-21 08:57:28

What also depresses me are those Tory supporters who are keeping quiet about everything.

Clearly they agree with the sewerage being dumped and corruption, or I assume they would have the backbone to say how wrong they think it all is.

The implication of silence is that they support it all.

What a grubby country.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 04-Nov-21 11:07:30

Yesterday Mogg was doing a lap of honour over Paterson, today a screeching U-turn.

That in a weird way makes the whole episode even worse.