BBC quits Stonewall Diversity Scheme

Yes, I think it’s a good move. ‘Their ‘No Debate’ stance doesn’t do anybody any favours.

Yes to both questions. Excellent news Doodledog and about time. Perhaps the BBC’s stance will cause other companies and institutions to pull out too.
Thanks for highlighting this.

This is great news!

I’m very pleased to see this. People are now refusing to drink the Kool Aid.

A bit of common sense from the BBC at last!

I agree it's great news and the BBC's decision may give courage to others to take the same action.

As you've posted Doodledog, Stonewall did so much good in the 80's but appear to have lost their way. This decision by the BBC is a good thing and Stonewall's reach seems to be exceeding their grasp.

Stonewall is a good organisation infiltrated and taken over by extremists, whose only argument to any attempt at reasonable discussion is to whine that everyone hates them.

is to whine that everyone hates them
Well they’ve made a pretty good fist of that. ?

Good news

Good riddance!

If you want to hear the (rather convoluted) full story, there should be a series of podcasts on this link, if it's worked.

Thank goodness some common sense is appearing.

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Thank goodness some common sense is appearing.

I think it will encourage other organisations to join the exodus, as the threat of being vilified as 'transphobic' simply for disagreeing with Stonewall will diminish with each resignation. The tide seems to be turning at last.

Doodledog it’s excellent news. As I’ve said in another post, several government departments and health authorities have also withdrawn.
However, I’m in Scotland and all the political parties bar the Conservatives are pro-trans, etc. I really wish that some large companies up here would follow the BBC, etc.
Btw, the Nolan podcasts are excellent, as was the BBC article about lesbians being coerced into having sex with trans women. Nolan has since said that they have been thanked by a lot of BBC employees, all of whom were too scared to speak up before.

It's interesting that there seem to be few voices speaking against the trend for pulling back from Stonewall, isn't it? Like you, I have heard people expressing relief that they now feel able to speak up, and suspect that there will be an outpouring, now that the dam has been breached. Other than Stomewall's own statement, however, there doesn't seem to be much coming the other way.

A "no debate" stance is always wrong so I'm glad there is now some fight back against Stonewall dictatorial intolerance.

Sorry Doodledog I hadn't seen this thread when I 'informed' you about the Stephen Nolan podcasts. I should have guessed you'd have found them already I am so pleased the BBC have withdrawn from Stonewall's stranglehold, and can only hope other organisations will take courage too. There seems to be a collective sigh of relief that debate and discussion may now be on the agenda instead of outright bullying.

Some good news at last.

Companies were also paying large sums of money for Stonewall’s education programmes. I think Stonewall has done a lot of good in the past but is now desperately trying to justify its continued existence. For once the BBC has done the right thing.

Not at all, Rosie - the more the word is spread the better.

I'm reminded of Operation Yewtree here. The BBC is still recovering from that, and won't want to stand accused of keeping silent when another scandal is going on under its nose.

Time will tell, but I agree with all who have said that it is very encouraging news.

If people are interested this subject was discussed in Womans Hour today, I need to listen to it fully but it appears that Emma Barnett was doing some proper investigative journalism. I am quite astounded at what she asked. Some very brave women have got us to where we are today. No debate is well and truly over.

Good news!

It is sad to see a movement such as Stonewall which was founded to fight homophobia, Aids prejudice and such, and did such a fine job against the Article 28 proposals end up like this, a narrow minded, non tolerant organisation which allows no debate, no consideration for discussion of difficulties many have in understanding trans gender issues. I am saddened to see such a fine organisation laying itself open to accusations of prejudice, and thus playing straight into the hands of those who are not prepared to consider the difficulties faced by anyone not fitting the standard gender pattern. Well done BBC and others for moving away.

Excellent news and very glad to hear it. Stonewall outstripped their original mandate a long time ago. The harm they've done to lesbians, gay and academics is incalculable. Good riddance to them.