Johnson’s lack of respect

I’d like Jeremy Hunt to replace him. He is, at least, speaking up for Nazanin and has done so for a long time now. It was pointed out to Johnson today that there is a way that we can repay the money we owe Iran, because Obama managed to get some prisoners released a few years ago. Johnson said he would consider it: he obviously hadn’t given the matter much thought and seems oblivious to the fact that it was his comments that enabled Iran to keep her incarcerated. For years there has been this strange perception that behind the bumbling facade is a highly intelligent man. But that facade is now crumbling away. He hardly answered anything at the select committee today. It was full of things that should have been done or things he should know about and all he could do was say he’d ‘get back to you about it’. All the people behind brexit are now showing themselves for what they really are. Johnson, Cummings, Bannon in America. Chope, Rees Mogg, Paterson.

He’s an embarrassing manchild who talks gibberish, but because he has a slick of charm some can’t see beyond that. The number of U turns and the lack of any moral compass is beginning to wear the facade down, hopefully more can see the emperor’s lack of clothing.

I watched him at that committee on YouTube last night. He is so hard to listen to, all the er er er and um um um. I'm sure if you cut them out there would be hardly anything left.

I had to laugh at the bit where someone asked him why he'd said there was cross party support for the trick they tried to pull and he admitted he hadn't spoken to the opposition asked another question he said something like, "I can't comment on that conversation as it never happened." It just sounded so ridiculous, I mean if it never happened there wasn't a conversation.

I was so pleased when the Speaker lost it with him, he's needed putting in his place for a long time.

I will admit to the guilty pleasure of watching this bit about 5 times last night

Buyers remorse.

This was said to 30 current and former journalists over dinner at the Garrick gentleman's club. Was it meant as a joke? Is it funny?

Imagine how heartbroken you would be if your partner said that about you.
What sort of man says this about his young wife who is pregnant with his second child? What does that sort of man thinks of women to say such a thing?

“They were careless people, Tom and Daisy- they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.” F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby

From a friend:
The Tories turning on Johnson makes me sick. Of course I want him gone. Of course he’s a disgrace. But look at what they accepted and indeed cheered from him, and look at what tipped the balance.
A few things that are not worth removing Johnson:
Lying to the Queen
Unlawfully proroguing Parliament
Lying to the electorate about Brexit
Risking the Good Friday Agreement
Refusing to feed hungry school children
Removing £20 a week from the poorest
Accepting bribes from all and sundry
Shocking Covid response in global terms
PPE scandal
Eye-watering money waste of Test & Trace
Releasing sewage into our water systems
Creating an internal border in our country
Risking the Union
Causing empty supermarket shelves
NHS overwhelm
Care system near collapse
Justice system near collapse
Removing British citizens’ free movement
Destroying music industry’s ability to tour
Culling thousands of healthy pigs
Adopting policy with intent to drown refugees
Undermining anti-corruption measures
Needing to insist UK not corrupt at COP26
Abandoning Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe
Awarding peerage to dodgy Russian
Any number of sex scandals
Single thing that may lead to removing him:
Asking that MPs actually concentrate on fulfilling their elected duty, not take a second job and restrict their earnings to £82,000.
It’s hard to believe that this party exists for any other purpose than to feather the nests of its own members.

He might have meant it as a joke, albeit not in the best of taste.

Will you all never tire of excusing this poor excuse for a man?

I highly recommend a book called ‘The Assault on Truth; Boris Johnson, Donald Trump and the New Moral Barbarism’.
Despite its title, there is very little about Trump, it’s really about Johnson. It’s brilliant.
It covers all of his lies and disgusting behaviour.
It’s by Peter Oborne, a Tory.

FannyCornforth

I highly recommend a book called ‘The Assault on Truth; Boris Johnson, Donald Trump and the New Moral Barbarism’.
Despite its title, there is very little about Trump, it’s really about Johnson. It’s brilliant.
It covers all of his lies and disgusting behaviour.
It’s by Peter Oborne, a Tory.

I bought it months and months ago! It needs updating now that there is another volume's worth of material to add to it

With a few exceptions the Tories are not turning on Johnson now because of their own moral sense of right and wrong.

Neither are they doing so because the opposition and press are holding up a mirror. Experience shows us that they don't care what face they see in the mirror, however ugly it is.

They are doing so because the can feel negative pressure from the electorate's moral sense of right and wrong. Maintaining power is their only compass.

Did you enjoy it Maizie?
I quite agree that it could do with an update!

Germanshepherdsmum

He might have meant it as a joke, albeit not in the best of taste.

A joke at his young, pregnant wife's expense.

What sort of man does that?

Superb quote from The Great Gatsby, Scones. ? So apt.

With a few exceptions the Tories are not turning on Johnson now because of their own moral sense of right and wrong.

I think it's statements like that which upset the tory voters on here. I think most of them would regard themselves as having a good sense of right or wrong. But I'm afraid I just think 'Why on earth do you go on supporting them?'
And I don't think ridiculous statements like 'Labour couldn't do any better' are a valid reason

‘Buyers effing remorse?!!’

I can’t believe he has the cheek to use that expression!
How does he think vaguely sensible Brexit voters / Conservative voters feel?!

FannyCornforth

Did you enjoy it Maizie?
I quite agree that it could do with an update!

Every word of it. Should be required reading for all voters.

Scones

Germanshepherdsmum

He might have meant it as a joke, albeit not in the best of taste.

A joke at his young, pregnant wife's expense.

What sort of man does that?

Just bantz, Scones, just bantz... ?

MayBee70

I’d like Jeremy Hunt to replace him. He is, at least, speaking up for Nazanin and has done so for a long time now. It was pointed out to Johnson today that there is a way that we can repay the money we owe Iran, because Obama managed to get some prisoners released a few years ago. Johnson said he would consider it: he obviously hadn’t given the matter much thought and seems oblivious to the fact that it was his comments that enabled Iran to keep her incarcerated. For years there has been this strange perception that behind the bumbling facade is a highly intelligent man. But that facade is now crumbling away. He hardly answered anything at the select committee today. It was full of things that should have been done or things he should know about and all he could do was say he’d ‘get back to you about it’. All the people behind brexit are now showing themselves for what they really are. Johnson, Cummings, Bannon in America. Chope, Rees Mogg, Paterson.

They would have kept her incarcerated without Johnson’s remarks. You really think they would have set her, and don’t forget there are others incarcerated by this terrorist regime, free , no way. Even if we pay the money back there is no guarantee they will free them.

MaizieD

Scones

Germanshepherdsmum

He might have meant it as a joke, albeit not in the best of taste.

A joke at his young, pregnant wife's expense.

What sort of man does that?

Just bantz, Scones, just bantz... ?

Well you are probably spot on there MaizeD. In 2015 the membership of the Garrick Club voted on whether to allow women members the vote was 50.5% in favour. This didn't come to pass though as a majority of 2/3rds is required for action apparently.

The reason given by one member was that keeping it men only "allows for camaraderie and banter".

MaizieD

Superb quote from The Great Gatsby, Scones. ? So apt.

With a few exceptions the Tories are not turning on Johnson now because of their own moral sense of right and wrong.

I think it's statements like that which upset the tory voters on here. I think most of them would regard themselves as having a good sense of right or wrong. But I'm afraid I just think 'Why on earth do you go on supporting them?'
--And I don't think ridiculous statements like 'Labour couldn't do any better' are a valid reason--

I never aim to upset anyone and I apologise if my post has done so.

It is impossible for me to see how anyone who believes they have a good sense of right or wrong can read the list detailed in Kali2's post (9.32) and think that these guys are the right people to be leading our society.

I understand where the 'Labour couldn't do any better' sentiment comes from, but really? If you really think about this, could anyone have done worse? Could anyone have made things worse than the way we are now and the way we are heading? Differently bad perhaps, but not worse. Surely it's time to give someone else a go and I don't mean another Conservative PM.

Lincslass

MayBee70

I’d like Jeremy Hunt to replace him. He is, at least, speaking up for Nazanin and has done so for a long time now. It was pointed out to Johnson today that there is a way that we can repay the money we owe Iran, because Obama managed to get some prisoners released a few years ago. Johnson said he would consider it: he obviously hadn’t given the matter much thought and seems oblivious to the fact that it was his comments that enabled Iran to keep her incarcerated. For years there has been this strange perception that behind the bumbling facade is a highly intelligent man. But that facade is now crumbling away. He hardly answered anything at the select committee today. It was full of things that should have been done or things he should know about and all he could do was say he’d ‘get back to you about it’. All the people behind brexit are now showing themselves for what they really are. Johnson, Cummings, Bannon in America. Chope, Rees Mogg, Paterson.

They would have kept her incarcerated without Johnson’s remarks. You really think they would have set her, and don’t forget there are others incarcerated by this terrorist regime, free , no way. Even if we pay the money back there is no guarantee they will free them.

Well, it certainly won’t harm the cause will it? I believe Obama replayed a debt to Iran a few years ago and got some prisoners released. So, do you think it was a good thing for the, then, foreign secretary, to tell Iran that she was training people up? (yes or no will suffice)

I cannot understand why some posters fell they have to make excuses for Johnson's appalling behaviour. He does not improve and as a leader of a country is a disgrace. I would hate to see my grandsons thinking that his sort of behaviour is acceptable.

Personally I think he looks a right mess and he really should do something with his hair. There are plenty of hair products on the market - he should make use of them. He has no pride in the way he dresses or presents himself - he’s a bit of a slob really.

Lincslass

MayBee70

I’d like Jeremy Hunt to replace him. He is, at least, speaking up for Nazanin and has done so for a long time now. It was pointed out to Johnson today that there is a way that we can repay the money we owe Iran, because Obama managed to get some prisoners released a few years ago. Johnson said he would consider it: he obviously hadn’t given the matter much thought and seems oblivious to the fact that it was his comments that enabled Iran to keep her incarcerated. For years there has been this strange perception that behind the bumbling facade is a highly intelligent man. But that facade is now crumbling away. He hardly answered anything at the select committee today. It was full of things that should have been done or things he should know about and all he could do was say he’d ‘get back to you about it’. All the people behind brexit are now showing themselves for what they really are. Johnson, Cummings, Bannon in America. Chope, Rees Mogg, Paterson.

They would have kept her incarcerated without Johnson’s remarks. You really think they would have set her, and don’t forget there are others incarcerated by this terrorist regime, free , no way. Even if we pay the money back there is no guarantee they will free them.

Oh, and I’ve just had a message from Tulip to say how overwhelmed she and Richard have been by the amount of support they’ve had. I’ve been politically active throughout most of my adult life and quite often people have said about things I’ve done ‘what good will that do’. But, you know what, sometimes it has worked.

I had missed that 'joke' from Johnson, if anyone thinks that actually was a joke and not a clear statement of Johnsons view of women, then they dont understand Johnson at all. A deeply deeply damaged man.