Keeping Royal Secrets

I don’t think the parents are responsible for someone becoming such a pervert, sex with underage girls procured by your friend is disgusting, he’s old enough to know it’s wrong, he had his own girls that age, I wonder what kind of father it makes you. What I do find reprehensible is their family sheltering them to avoid justice, if one of us did that we would be imprisoned for perverting the course of justice I would have thought. None of them should be above the law.

not least of unifying the nations
Of course, the Sunday Herald is pro Scottish independence. They will dislike anything or anyone who wants unity of the UK.

Prince Andrew is a red herring.

Because he ha enjoyed all the trappings of his families wealth up until recently, and probably still does.
I think of "the royals" collectively, a bit like a firm, to quote a certain person.

Calistemon

^not least of unifying the nations^
Of course, the Sunday Herald is pro Scottish independence. They will dislike anything or anyone who wants unity of the UK.

You clearly don't know the Herald on Sunday which is a different publication.

Obsession with SNP disasters, especially ferry-based ones.

Keep trying though, it's entertaining. It was also reported in that well known separatist rag, the Telegraph.

I doubt Andrew is the only person who facing alleged allegations hasn’t been thrown onto the streets.

MissAdventure

Because he ha enjoyed all the trappings of his families wealth up until recently, and probably still does.
I think of "the royals" collectively, a bit like a firm, to quote a certain person.

I think 'the firm' has far fewer employees now.

Don't forget they have independent wealth, why should he not benefit from private wealth even if we don't like it?

He's the only royal, though.

Keep trying though, it's entertaining

You asked for thoughts but, of course, it's a way of goading other posters if they give an opinion.

I'll just bugger off.

He can live the life of riley with his own wealth.
I think it's reasonable for the royals to be transparent in their dealings, in case anyone might suspect that it isnt only their own money they spend.

Calistemon

^Keep trying though, it's entertaining^

You asked for thoughts but, of course, it's a way of goading other posters if they give an opinion.

I'll just bugger off.

You twice tried to make out this was motivated by my desire for independence. What's that if its not goady? Well it's wrong as well, obviously...

Historians are usually interested in every facet of the individual they are studying, Gsm. Diaries are excellent primary sources for them. No reason why they shouldn't be available for study.

If had they been available for historical research and no decision made to withhold part of them, no-one, apart from historians, would have been interested.

What fresh hell must Philip’s will contain to make the royal family look any worse?
Catherine Bennett
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/20/what-fresh-hell-must-philips-will-contain-to-make-the-royal-family-look-any-worse

Alegrias1

Calistemon

Keep trying though, it's entertaining

You asked for thoughts but, of course, it's a way of goading other posters if they give an opinion.

I'll just bugger off.

You twice tried to make out this was motivated by my desire for independence. What's that if its not goady? Well it's wrong as well, obviously...

Just for the record, no I did not.

The newspaper in question is the Sunday Herald, not the Herald on Sunday which ceased publication several years ago. My fault for not being clear about that.

It's a serious paper, not a gossip sheet. Besmirchment can work both ways.

It is a newspaper which seriously advocates Scottish independence and it was the newspaper I was referring to.

As you were.

Absolutely disgraceful behaviour from the royals.

Royals at war with BBC over ‘tittle tattle’ documentary #TomorrowsPapersToday

Royals have no right to censor anything produced for public viewing. Too much secrecy as it is for a family supported by the taxpayer.

We need transparency, this manipulative power they hold with the media rota system is devisive and allows them the ability to squash reports of their behaviour and leak stories about more minor royals to keep tabloids fed. Hidden wealth, cash for honours,affairs,racism. Etc,etc

I corrected myself immediately after that post Calistemon about getting the names mixed up. The Sunday Herald and the Herald on Sunday are entirely different publications. The Sunday Herald was a famously independence supporting newspaper which ceased publication in 2018. So nothing was published in it yesterday.

There is now a paper called the Herald on Sunday which has a different political slant. More like the weekday Herald which was always Unionist. And that's where I first saw the report. Which has now been picked up by the Telegraph, the Express and I think, the Guardian.

As you were.

Prof Jenny Hocking
@palaceletters

Royal cover-up of Mountbatten's papers continues. Historian Andrew Lownie has spent £250,000 on FOI to open Mountbatten's 'public' archive. Lownie succeeded, Southampton Uni still refuses to open. Support Lownie's crowdfunding campaign for history's sake #auspol #twitterstorians

Andrew Lownie
@andrewlownie

Anger over ‘grotesque abuse’ of £600,000 case to keep Mountbatten papers secret theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/nov/07/anger-over-grotesque-abuse-of-600000-case-to-keep-mountbatten-papers-secret

Who owns the diaries? I can't work out if it is the university or the nation.

Grany

Absolutely disgraceful behaviour from the royals.

Royals at war with BBC over ‘tittle tattle’ documentary #TomorrowsPapersToday

Royals have no right to censor anything produced for public viewing. Too much secrecy as it is for a family supported by the taxpayer.

We need transparency, this manipulative power they hold with the media rota system is devisive and allows them the ability to squash reports of their behaviour and leak stories about more minor royals to keep tabloids fed. Hidden wealth, cash for honours,affairs,racism. Etc,etc

If it is not true, they have every right to make a fuss. Slander comes to mind.

Lincslass, that is typical of Grany. The diaries may contain untruths and he is not here to explain or defend what he decided to write. I’m rather surprised that his descendants decided to cash in by selling them. Perhaps I shouldn’t be.

Private papers are just that! We do not have a right to know everything and that is the way it should stay. Royalty or not, everyone has a right to privacy.

HE WROTE THEM.

If he didn't want us to think that's what he thought, he shouldn't have written it down.

I don't think people write diaries of historical importance so that they don't forget their dentist appointment. They write them so that generations to come can understand how they were thinking at the time.

Shropshirelass

Private papers are just that! We do not have a right to know everything and that is the way it should stay. Royalty or not, everyone has a right to privacy.

But the diaries are not private. His family sold them.

Germanshepherdsmum

*Lincslass*, that is typical of Grany. The diaries may contain untruths and he is not here to explain or defend what he decided to write. I’m rather surprised that his descendants decided to cash in by selling them. Perhaps I shouldn’t be.

Diaries aren't necessarily absolute truths.
They are opinions, written from the point of view if the diarist.

It was stupid of his family to sell them but perhaps they thought they would be of historical importance and should be preserved for posterity by an academic institution.

Alegrias he might have intended to destroy them!or leave instructions to that effect. He didn’t expect to die when he did. Some people live a Walter Mitty existence alongside the persona they project to the outside world and write their fantasies in journals. Who can say that what he wrote is truth or fantasy?