What will the judiciary do?

My father was royal navy. After the war he was haunted by the men on torpedoed ships who drowned. He was on North Atlantic Convoys, against all the laws of the sea they were not allowed to break convoy, obviously to protect the precious supplies coming from the USA. I remember his stories when I was a little girl of the ships sailing through groups of survivors screaming for help, but they could not stop to pick them up.

I heard those stories late at night when he was drunk, he self medicated with alcohol to deal with the horror. I suppose now he'd be diagnosed with PTSD and get help. In the 1950s you had to man up and get on with it. He died when I was a child, the alcohol got him but he was still a casualty of WWII.

Maybe I have a different view of people who would deliberately block a lifeboat station.

And openly admit to being willing to prevent ambulances carrying very sick or badly injured people getting to hospitals.

I think it was one ‘protester’ who made a comment and was carted off by the Police pretty quickly and rightly so. I don’t think this is in any way comparable to the continuous disruption caused by the ‘Insulate’ protesters who stopped people getting to work including doctors and nurses.

What would satisfy me? Well idiots blocking the RNLI getting arrested would be good.

The people who are so against other protesters expressing the same level of outrage at these anti immigrant protesters would be a good.

That’s not fair. A comment about XR causing damage made long before interference with RNLI operations occurred. There has been disapproval. What do you want? Are you just trying to whip up trouble? What will satisfy you?

Still no outrage about these protests then? Interesting, obviously a bit of grass is more important than the lives of those in peril on the sea.

My thoughts exactly Maudi. Very succinct.

What a load of claptrap ?

I believe we are sleepwalking into a quasi-totalitarian state Patel’s anti-protest laws will in the end bring about the silencing of all dissent.
A protest that draws no attention is not a protest. Sometimes the cause is worth annoying the blissfully ignorant.

Blocking the RNLI is terrible. I live in a coastal town, we have had fishermen die in the last couple of years, the idea that these idiots would risk people's lives is mind blowing and far more serious than damaging a bloody lawn at a university.

Where's the outrage?

That's a very good point MaizieD.

Just been seeing a post about the attempt to prevent a lifeboat launching.

I trust the hangers and floggers on this thread would be happy to apply the same draconian rules to the anti-immigration protestors...

I bloody hope not.

Arguably the unacceptable and violent treatment the suffragettes recieved at the hands of the authorities led to more people supporting them. Perhaps with this legislation the government are shooting themselves in the foot and causes like Extinction Rebellion will go from strength to strength.

Maremia

My point is, you don't elicit change in your favour, by staying at home and saying 'Pretty please'.

Out of interest, how old are you Maremia?

An approximation to the nearest five years would suffice ?

'removal of our rights'... before the Pedants' Revolt begins.

It's good that you all know about what the suffragettes suffered to get women the vote. Don't know if I would have had the strength to persist, as they did. How would they feel, seeing how we sit at home doing nothing to defend the gradual, sneaky removal of the our rights?

Well said Lincslass. Whatever punishments are meted out to such protesters, they won’t be anything like some of the suffragettes had to endure.

Linclass Well said.

The suffragettes burnt down a railway station near where I live. That was quite disruptive I expect. Postal boxes were a favourite target as well I believe. Goodness knows what was lost.

As for the idea that the UK government are doing much about climate change, that is not correct.

Maremia

My point is, you don't elicit change in your favour, by staying at home and saying 'Pretty please'.

You don’t elicit change by wantonly destroying property, stopping people from getting medical care or visiting their sick children, stopping people from working, especially those whose job is to insulate homes or offices. Yes the suffragettes did break the law, but not to the extent that these vandals are doing, and don’t think they stopped ambulances etc.
These protestors deserve all they get coming to them. The world knows about climate change, the UK gov is doing much, our area is doing a great deal. Think much of this is political rather than anything else, plenty of insulation grants going , if they stick their hands to anything let them stay there for the night. Their choice.

My point is, you don't elicit change in your favour, by staying at home and saying 'Pretty please'.

It was done because the Cambridge colleges have millions of pounds invested in fossil fuel industries.

Was it, Trisher - I stand corrected then. It was such an act of wanton vandalism, apparently because whichever college it was had links to slavery - which ancient institution or aristocratic family doesn't? And not XR's main agenda I think.

25Avalon

Women’s suffrage was for at least 50% of the population who were not franchised.

Saving the planet from the effects of global warming is for 100% of the population.