Sir Kier Starmer addressing the nation at 7pm

There are lots of things I could say about Maggie and "charisma" isn't one of them!

She had, IMHO, the most boring monotonous voice with that forced posh accent to cover up her Lincolnshire origins.

But perhaps charisma is not desirable in politicians and leaders. After all some would say Hitler had charisma!

It is a shame that Starmer is a bit "grey" and boring though. People seem to prefer more light-hearted tones in these troubled time, even if the words are lies.

It is a shame that Starmer is a bit "grey" and boring though. People seem to prefer more light-hearted tones in these troubled time, even if the words are lies.

I'd settle for some competence and clear thinking. I don't really care how grey the person delivering it is. I think we've had more than enough of asinine 'lightheartedness'.

some of you must have awful taste in men if you think boris has charisma and kier starmer has none!

JaneJudge

some of you must have awful taste in men if you think boris has charisma and kier starmer has none!

100% right !

GrannyGravy13

Oops apt typo*stinking should have been *stonking ???

... that's really given me a belly laugh! ?

I don't think Johnson's appeal is so much charisma, more that he's 'bullish', and people seem to like his assertive style.

Personally, I prefer a bit more gravitas, and Starmer has that, but there is something lacking in his 'style'.

Because of our single-party system, we seem to place so much emphasis on a party leader, but it's difficult to be all things to all men, so to speak.

JaneJudge

some of you must have awful taste in men if you think boris has charisma and kier starmer has none!

YES

Oh Gawd! ....... “And from my family to yours, I wish you all a Happy Christmas”. What a cringeworthy end to this platform. Is he auditioning for greater things? We both laughed anyway.
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Pretty flat, awful and uninspiring in my opinion.

I am afaraid he couldn’t lead sheep, oh sorry, he does! I cannot stand him, he is patronising and condescending, God help us if he got in.

Nice to see you able to show you have an open mind Shropshirelass.

I thought the references to us doing our duty were appropriate.

I thought Kier was being the grown up in comparison to what we had to watch last night.

I think that was exactly what it meant to convey.
Others may let you down, but we wouldn't, is the message I got.

Poor Boris on the other hand. The unwashed, overweight, alcoholic privileged idiot who made a choice to have two babies in his 50s with his much younger wife during a pandemic.

I see the queue outside my community food bank on a Sunday during any month but yesterday was horrific. I have no sympathy for the likes of our club penguin Prime Minister

It just seemed inappropriate at a time of national anxiety.

Unwashed? Hahahaha. ?
Unkempt I’ll give you that JaneJudge but unwashed? ???

Honestly, what a mess..
All of it.

Urmstongran

It just seemed inappropriate at a time of national anxiety.

quite a few of us are anxious about what the government are going to decide with blanket rules again. I don't have any confidence they have any clue what normal ordinary people do

I had to watch my severely disabled adult child through a glass window on a memorable birthday even though care staff who went home to their own families were allowed in the home. A lot of their rules have been a nonsense

I'm quite sick of them

Urmstongran

Unwashed? Hahahaha. ?
Unkempt I’ll give you that JaneJudge but unwashed? ???

he's certainly filthy

I'm glad that he sang the praises of the NHS as everyone's thoughts should be directed towards them at this time of the year. By adhering to the rules, we'll save them all another horrendous season.

Urmstongran

It just seemed inappropriate at a time of national anxiety.

What seemed inappropriate Urmstongran?

JaneJudge. “unwashed, alcoholic”. Harsh and I don’t believe it. Unkempt, scruffy, dressed down okish. Mr Johnson was ahead with the vaccine programme and purchase so credit where it is due for that.

He looked a right state. They'd had to sober him up for his pre recorded ramble
Stop making excuses for him, he is a disgrace

He wants to come across as the new Churchill but has ended up as a Sir Les Patterson lookalike!