When is mis-speaking actually lying to deceive?

Dinahmo

lemongrove

Yes, I did listen to the link, but as I am half deaf anyway, cannot make it out.Unless a voice is as clear as a bell I never can, and he is anything but.

This suggests that we cannot accept everything that you tell us that you've heard

Glad to know that you find deafness such an amusing subject
Dinahmo
I have been like this since I was about three years old, and can assure you it’s made my life very hard.

Chewbacca I think he hates PMQ’s because he can’t concentrate on quick fire questions and either mis reads figures or thinks he knows the answer when he doesn’t.....and gets it wrong.His aides need to make very clear what the figures are, although there are notes in front of him he often seems to make mistakes, I have wondered if he’s dyslexic.
Verbally he is the same, not able ( unless reading a script) to get a clear message across succinctly
David Cameron was the smoothest operator I have ever seen at PMQ’s and Johnson the worst.Mind you, Cameron didn’t end well.

lemongrove

How do you know he stood up with the intention of walking out? The PM has to stand up to answer a question.
Did you mis hear the £140 for Winter as a week, he does mumble a lot.
VAT may yet be cut.

He clearly stood and turned and began to walk towards door, and the Speaker instructed him to sit down. Clear enough, surely.

Trouble is he ( or his minions) preprepares answers to any questions he might get and so whatever questions he gets gets the same answer usually not to the question asked. Usually something bumbling about vaccinations.

its disgusting isn't it? the woman that lied about her health machine gets prison for fraud yet boris lies all the time, take the side of a bus for starters, and nothing happens!!! Unbelievable

He's a politician, surely you don't believe what he says!

Mis-speak ? Is that a polite way of saying he was lying?
I have noticed that whenever Johnson does not know answers, he either tries to divert attention by waffling and then begin to talk about something totally unrelated , stutters and mutters, or plucks ideas out of thin air that are usually incorrect.
I think that he believes that he can get by with no notes, unfortunately he isn't as good as he thinks he is!
It's also a shame that when he makes mistakes like this that none of his cohorts seem to correct his statements.

Johnson hates PMQs because he is useless.

GrannyGear

He's a politician, surely you don't believe what he says!

I do hope you don't vote in elections. because if you believe that how on earth can you make a decision on something that affects how the country is run?

In reply to MaizieD, fortunately our electoral system allows us to choose our local MP and not our PM.

Could you explain why?

BTW the First Past the Post does not allow most people from choosing local MP. I have voted every single time since the 70s- and my vote has gone straight in the bin!

GrannyGear

In reply to MaizieD, fortunately our electoral system allows us to choose our local MP and not our PM.

Yes, but local MPs are politicians, too. If they all lie, how can you make a judgement?

Let's not forget that local MPs become part of the national government if they belong to the majority party and could be aspirants to office in that government. So, if you think they all tell lies how do you know that they might be OK?

Is there some magical point at which they stop being honest and conscientious and become liars?

Some MPs may well be good constituency MPs but they will still vote for harmful legislation in parliament because they are obliged to by way of the whipping system (and their desire to keep their party in power)

Perhaps if he didn’t spend every day wandering round and elbow bumping in factories, shops, hospitals and schools anywhere but in his office, he might have the chance to actually look at his papers and listen to his advisers, but it seems to me they prefer to get him out if the way because of all his gaffes. Maybe they are right because he really is a hopeless case and a shockingly ill informed person, an embarrassment to all of us.

I notice that Jacob Rees-Mogg is disagreeing publicly with Johnson. He is among those saying that the increase in National Insurance should be delayed for a while.

Could this be the wedge that starts the movement to oust him?

The Telegraph is certainly wobbling.