Another ‘oh Jeremy Corbyn’ movement? ?

It would split the Labour vote ( in a small way) but maybe that’s what he hopes for?

Communism perhaps.

If it splits the Labour vote it will just ensure another Conservative Government (if he were able to get candidates to stand in constituencies around the Country)

Boris would be a very happy bunny.

Yes, it would mean a Conservative government for ever!

He would indeed.

Good, I hope he does it, then Labour would be free to move forward with consensus.

lawdy! Not sure who’s the daftest - him or his brother!

Didn’t Arthur Scargill set up a far left leaning party just before donning his safari gear and heading off in to the political wilderness.,

I think some of you are assuming that millions of Labour voters and many MPs would follow Corbyn, and it would split the party down the middle. I don’t think that would happen

There are still Corbyn devotees

There are Anniebach but they are dwindling. I honestly think this is the best thing that could happen.

I don’t think it would really happen either tbh, I think the Oh Jeremy Corbyn ship sailed a long time ago.
There’s no doubt though that he has quite a lot of supporters, and those that favour a hard left sort of Labour that could take away seats from Labour at a GE in certain places, mainly London.

Dianne Abbott has said she will join him. Prolly taking many Tower Hamlet voters over with her? Again, Boris would be delighted.

I think longer term it’s far more threatening for the Tories than you are giving credit for if this does happen, because they are equally as divided between hard and moderate on the right, and it will polarise their MPs and members too. It will make for very interesting times I think with lots of changes of allegiance, it’s probably exactly what British politics needs at the moment.

A good shake up definitely is needed Casdon.

Of course the PM's delight might be tempered by the emergence a new Tory right wing party - fast forward NF. Oh dear all round.

I'm with Casdon. We need an effective opposition and a more centrist party is the way forward.

Where are the sdp when you need them?

Interesting.

If Corbyn did start a new party would that kick off a new round of Corbyn demonisation in the media or would they stay quiet to facilitate a split Labour vote?

New parties never get very far; the last one to do so was the Labour party 100 years ago and they did it by moving into ground previously held by the Liberal Party. Any attempts since then have been failures.

The Red Wall constituencies comprehensively rejected Corbynism in 2019 and although polling shows that they are moving back to Labour I don't think they'd welcome Corbyn back. I'm not sure about the London constituencies. I think the the LibDems might be the winners there if the Labour vote is split.

The tory party is interesting, too. They are very split, with the small state, deregulation, low tax advocates in the ascendancy by virtue of the fact that there are sufficient of them to destroy the tory majority. Johnson is not the man to hold the party together; he has no principles, no real authority (he needed Labour support to get his mild set of covid restrictions through parliament) and no leadership qualities. How would the electorate react to the policies being pursued by the large tail that is wagging him if he gave in to them to retain power ? And, if he gives into them will the more reasonable tories go along with the 'remain in power at any cost' doctrine?

This will likely end up as just another niche minority party which will disappear. The problem is splitting the anti Tory vote will mean we are stuck with these monstrous overlords for years.

MaizieD, you eloquently summarised what I was trying to say, thank you!

kittylester

I'm with Casdon. We need an effective opposition and a more centrist party is the way forward.

Where are the sdp when you need them?

Would someone please explain how an opposition can be 'effective' when faced with a stonking great government majority? They can oppose legislation but it'll get through anyway.

Where are the sdp when you need them?
The SDP were responsible for splitting the anti-Tory vote, and sacrificed the futures of countless families for what turned out to be a pointless attempt to get power. This was repeated with their successors, the LibDems, and I will never forgive either.

I'm quite excited and we should be helping by thinking of names for the new party!

Suggestions on a postcard please