Will we have a new PM by the end of the month?

Wikipaedia has names for Chairman, deputy Chairman and deputy Chairwoman of the ERG Kali2 but it cannot be taken as truth. Shrouded in mystery it seems although said to be so powerful.

BTW, they are the ones that made sure they got rid of Mrs May- that used Johnson as a tool to win power, and the ones that will stab him in the back now- and appoint the next one.

About ERG. Ask the average person what it is and what role it plays. Many will have absolutely no idea. And many don't care. But perhaps I am being unfair here.

Kali2

And they totally refuse, again and again, to give a list of members. They should be forced to do so. Whose remit would that be though, The Speaker? Or?

Why should they be ‘forced to’ ? You seem very keen on draconian measures all round Kali
Nobody is forced to say that they are a member of a political party/ the Masons/the unions/ boy scouts and so on in this country.

Mmmmm, I just don’t know. I think probably not gone by the end of the month, but will he last the rest of the year. Probably not!

I doubt it tbh, I think he will get away with it, as usual. Then of course, what would the alternative be, I dread to think!

lemongrove

Kali2

And they totally refuse, again and again, to give a list of members. They should be forced to do so. Whose remit would that be though, The Speaker? Or?

Why should they be ‘forced to’ ? You seem very keen on draconian measures all round Kali
Nobody is forced to say that they are a member of a political party/ the Masons/the unions/ boy scouts and so on in this country.

If they are elected by the public, represent the public and their Constituencies, use public money for their activities, and exert massive power over Government and even the PM and the future of the Country, they should be declared. Same for the Judiciary.

Boy Scouts, they are not!

I think he’ll hang on until spring conference in Blackpool, 18/19 March then whatever happens there and in the meantime will determine his future.

Sarnia says "Britain deserves so much better." Do we?
Yes there was a lockdown and most people followed the rules ... but many didn't. Many "bending the rules" to suit themselves. But it was for our own protection.
So the staff sat in the garden in the sun - as we all did. As I recall the email instructed people to socially distance which they no doubt did. Maybe the email was just authorising all staff to use the garden at a time open public places in London were limited. Matter of interpretation but BJ's enemies obviously making mileage. I think the conservatives needed BJ in charge to get re-elected because of Brexit but now that's done want him out.
I think this too long ago and far too petty. Parliment has bigger things to debate such as tackling the current COVID wave, energy prices/ crisis, leveling up North snd South...

I don’t think he will resign. He may get booted out though later in the year if his popularity in the polls doesn’t improve.

Thank you HolySox.
Your posting is the most sensible one I have read this morning.
We have more important things to deal with rather than waste time on trivia.

Time wasting trivia ?
What about imposing draconian measures on everyone else, then doing exactly what you want. People were fined for much smaller breaches

lemongrove

Kali2

And they totally refuse, again and again, to give a list of members. They should be forced to do so. Whose remit would that be though, The Speaker? Or?

Why should they be ‘forced to’ ? You seem very keen on draconian measures all round Kali
Nobody is forced to say that they are a member of a political party/ the Masons/the unions/ boy scouts and so on in this country.

we are paying for the ERGs existence. Of course we should know who are members etc.

HolySox
We all did

I didn’t.

Kali2

So called European Research Group. Nothing to do with 'research' though, but extreme free market policies and ideologies. Extreme 'right' in a different way.

Kali2

Thank you. I’ll do a bit more research now. Never heard the term before.

Blossoming

HolySox
We all did

I didn’t.

Certainly not with so many people !

Just a thought but aren’t there too many threads in exactly the same issue ?

Libman

Kali2

So called European Research Group. Nothing to do with 'research' though, but extreme free market policies and ideologies. Extreme 'right' in a different way.

Kali2

Thank you. I’ll do a bit more research now. Never heard the term before.

You are welcome.

Here is a copy of the interview where one member refuses to say who the members are, Suella Braverman.

www.indy100.com/news/suella-braverman-channel-4-interview-attorney-general-boris-johnson-brexit-9335316

When I saw the title of this thread I intended to post an opinion. Not now as so many posts seem so extreme. We have to live and work with the politicians we currently have, most of whom have very little to recommend them. I’m referring here to both major parties. We may as well stick with what we have for the time being. As for Dominic Cummings he’s the biggest hypocrite of them all.

Thank you for posting your opinion.

Why both parties?

aonk:

'We may as well stick with what we have'

Why? Defeatist? Don't care? See no other option? I see it very differently. I can't imagine how he can continue now, I really can't. He should (just for once in his life) do the honourable thing - and resign!

I’m appalled that no Conservative MPs, never mind Cabinet members, have had the guts to stick their heads above the parapet and say what everyone is thinking. Instead we keep getting poor suckers wheeled out to defend the indefensible. The mantra of “wait for the outcome of the investigation” is just playing for time in the hope that everyone will have stopped being outraged by then. I can only hope Johnson is wrong and the whole lot of them get what they deserve - a P45.

Iam64

Time wasting trivia ?
What about imposing draconian measures on everyone else, then doing exactly what you want. People were fined for much smaller breaches

Why don’t you see it as they were keeping us all safe, and I thank them for that. They maybe didn’t keep themselves as safe, but that’s up to them. As Holysox said, there are bigger things to worry about. This is just a distraction to get rid of Boris, the man who got us out of Europe, and in my opinion, has done as well as anyone else would have during covid. There wasn’t a manual!

Many politicians are incompetent liars. Boris is no worse than anyone else.

Oh he is he is.

He did not do as well as anyone else. He delayed lockdown too long he didn’t borders or stop large sporting events, He was just lucky the scientists sorted a vaccine

Many politicians are incompetent liars. Boris is no worse than anyone else.

Wow! Did you have a straight face when you typed that? I honestly don't believe you did.