The SNP to cut off the bottom half of classroom doors!

Ventilation and fresh unadulaterated air are of prime importance for stopping transmission of airborne infections.

School uniforms must be more practical allowing for layers of warmth, including the lower body.

Josieann

Thinking about Boris (and doors), he could come up with an equally stupid plan to chop off the bottom of Number 10 door so that Dylin and Larry could pop in and out when they chose to.

From Little House in the Big Woods.

Once upon a time there was a man with two cats. A big cat and a little cat.
So he cut two holes in the door. a big hole for the big cat to go in and out and a little hole for the little cat………..

Will the pandemic be over before they're even halfway through?
That really made me laugh Calli. You are very witty!

Is this Nicola Sturgeon’s ‘Doorgate’?

I must admit to enjoying this lighthearted thread, thank you Urmstongran

Peasblossum, big cat , little cat so funny ! but it gives a sense of how stupid this idea is .
Definitely a fire hazard. The first thing that happens when fire alarms go off is doors automatically close to help save lives .

We definitely need more threads like this!
Perhaps we should all keep our eyes peeled for any other gems to post on here.

Good idea JenniferEccles. I’m sure there’s ‘rich pickings’ out there if we ?

This has been discussed on Jeremy Vine on Radio 2, with fire officers saying how very dangerous this suggestion would be because every door in a school is a fire door except those to the toilets.

It really is a bonkers idea!

Some classy posts here again today, thank you folks for making me laugh!

I really don’t understand the ‘Nicola’s done so well with the pandemic’ idea. Scotland’s outcome hasn’t been materially different from the rest of the UK and some people have been thrown under the bus altogether.

Thanks everyone for such a wonderful thread. What started out as a bit of a glum week for me has ended with a much needed bit of light hearted humour. To echo everyone else's comments well done Urmstongran for setting it off- if only more N&P threads were like this one.

And isn’t it lovely to see that the vast majority of posters have seen the funny side of this ludicrous idea and have joined in the fun?

We are all badly in need of some lighthearted silliness, but who would have thought it would have come courtesy of a certain Ms. Sturgeon ?!

While it is fun to laugh at the idea, I don't think , to be accurate, that anyone has suggested cutting the doors in half as the headlines have it, even those 2% to 4% of doors on "problematic spaces" where it will prove difficult to increase the ventilation - it would be more like planing a bit off the bottom of them, and that would be a temporary last resort.

“Based on informal local authority feedback, we expect that relatively only a very small number of learning, teaching or play spaces will have persistently high CO2 levels,” the education secretary’s letter states.

"Scottish Government guidance, based on the current weight of expert advice, is that the primary focus of mitigating activity should be on regular CO2 monitoring and associated remedial actions to improve ventilation (i.e. the introduction of fresh air into spaces).

“Where this cannot be readily achieved, and CO2 readings remain high, air cleaning/filtration devices may exceptionally be used as a temporary mitigation to reduce risks in problematic spaces while more sustainable, ventilation-based solutions are implemented.

“The informal local authority feedback indicated that around 2-4% of spaces have so far fallen into that problematic category, equalling around 2000 spaces out of 50,000 learning, teaching and play spaces across all local authority school and ELC settings.”

2000. Not a small number!

Aveline

2000. Not a small number!

It works out at £150 a door. Well, it all makes work for the working man to do. www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1dvAxA9ib0

"A sum of £300,000 is being set out by the Scottish Government so that around 2000 doors can be “undercut to increase air flow”.

The Government expects to spend around £4.3m on the measures – which also include £1.6m on air filters and £2.4m on mechanical fans.

Somerville explained the costs, to be borne by an additional £5m allocated for capital spending in schools, “will vary significantly in practice”.

£150 per door???
I've just looked on a couple of my builder sites and the estimates are £50 - £70 to
Take the door off, plane it all down, put it back on again. Probably even cheaper if doing it in bulk.
Why 3 times the price?

Because it’s easy to spend other people’s (taxpayers) money. Nicola Sturgeon would probably look for better value if it were her own doors being (ahem) attended to.

Because they are fire doors, with a different composition to a standard domestic door.

Peasblossom

Because they are fire doors, with a different composition to a standard domestic door.

Good point ..... but back to the stupidity of tampering with a fire door in the first place.

They have a metal component that can’t be planed.

But then they shouldn’t be propped open either.

Windows that open or mechanical vents I’m afraid if you want to ventilate.

If we attempted this in our Offices and Warehouse the doors would never pass the annual Fire Inspection, we would either have to close or replace doors.

Another thing to think of Ms. Sturgeon is that tampering with Fire Doors could and probably would invalidate the fire aspect of any insurances.

The front door of my flat has a tiny gap under it and a force 10 gale blows under it so it certainly would air the flat if I didn't put a dog in front of it.
The dog is a cloth one btw!

AGAA4

The front door of my flat has a tiny gap under it and a force 10 gale blows under it so it certainly would air the flat if I didn't put a dog in front of it.
The dog is a cloth one btw!

We used to have one of those - a long dachshund which my SisIL made for us.

Windows that open
?

We sat in the GP surgery waiting room today and all the top windows were open. There was a fair old breeze blowing through even though doors were shut.