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Virginia Giuffre and the missing picture

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tickingbird Tue 15-Feb-22 12:47:13

Apparently Prince Andrew’s accuser has lost the photograph of her and PA together. He has always maintained it’s fake and his legal team want it be examined.

Does anyone else find it odd that a photograph that has been kept for years has now suddenly been lost?

Iam64 Tue 15-Feb-22 18:03:58

Exactly JaneJudge.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 15-Feb-22 18:10:05

Smileless2012

How do you know the photo hasn't been lost, and what makes you think that it wasn't going to be produced as evidence Whitewavemark?

How do you know "He was never going to court"?

Because Windsor had very little options. He had no apparent defence to the substantive claim by Giuffre, that was clear as the months unfolded, so court was never going to be an option as courts tend to favour the claimant in any case.m

All the tactics his lawyers tried were blown out if the water by Giuffre’s lawyers.

Windsor had therefore either to settle on Giuffre)s terms or go to trial.

Both sets of lawyers would have worked on the assumption of a settlement. - everything else was simple a side show.

It seems that Giuffre kept her nerve and took him to the cleaners.

Good for her.

Peasblossom Tue 15-Feb-22 18:13:48

Except she’s had to agree to it going to charity which isn’t what she wanted.

I’ll be interested to see how her other cases develop.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 15-Feb-22 18:17:39

Peasblossom

Except she’s had to agree to it going to charity which isn’t what she wanted.

I’ll be interested to see how her other cases develop.

Where did you find that information please?

Smileless2012 Tue 15-Feb-22 18:18:04

Oh sorry JaneJudge, yes I was referring to your post.

But I understood she didn't want to 'take him to the cleaners' she didn't want a financial settlement, she wanted to show that no one is above the lawconfused.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 15-Feb-22 19:35:57

wwm you really have no idea do you?

Iam64 Tue 15-Feb-22 19:47:16

No need to be rude about WWM2 because her opinion doesn’t fit with yours

lemsip Tue 15-Feb-22 19:51:28

charles ordered him to settle;
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Prince Andrew settles sex case with Virginia Roberts 'for £7.5million' after exasperated Charles orders him to agree payout before Queen's Platinum Jubilee:

Whitewavemark2 Tue 15-Feb-22 19:56:22

Germanshepherdsmum

wwm you really have no idea do you?

Why do you say that?

NanKate Tue 15-Feb-22 20:06:01

I wonder how PA will pass his time now out of the limelight. No doubt Fergie will be at his side.

Grandnana Tue 15-Feb-22 20:13:55

Whitewavemark2

Curlywhirly

Well, if he's come to an agreement (albeit in principle at the moment) doesn't that indicate that he did 'have relations' her?

If you read the comments they don’t deny it, and in fact appear to accept that there was trafficking etc. by Epstein.

Yuk

Exactly. He didn't want to risk court imo.

Grandnana Tue 15-Feb-22 20:53:24

Whitewavemark2

He was never going to court. It would have been a massive risk as evidence given would have almost certainly subsequently used for a criminal case.

It was never, never going to happen.

Exactly!

trisher Tue 15-Feb-22 21:18:01

Peasblossom

Except she’s had to agree to it going to charity which isn’t what she wanted.

I’ll be interested to see how her other cases develop.

PeasblossomIt is her charity she set it up . It supports other victims
twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1493617740292276232/photo/1
PA has said he never meant to malign her and realises she has suffered public abuse. It's a pity some on GN don't realise this.

Iam64 Tue 15-Feb-22 21:22:09

Peasblossom, how do you know VG didn’t want the settlement to go to the charity she set up for victims like herself?
Trisha rightly points out Prince A accepts she is a victim, who suffers public abuse. Often on this forum

Anniebach Wed 16-Feb-22 11:14:03

Criticism is abuse ? So Carrie Johnson, Camilla, the Queen,
Boris, Starmer, Corbyn have also been abused ?

eazybee Wed 16-Feb-22 11:27:50

I wonder how much her legal team will claim?
It would be nice to think she will go back to Australia, shut up and retire from public life but I doubt it.

Mollygo Wed 16-Feb-22 11:54:21

NanKate

I wonder how PA will pass his time now out of the limelight. No doubt Fergie will be at his side.

I wonder how the media will fill the pages now he’s out of the limelight?
Some people will be worried that their turn is on its way.

Grany Wed 16-Feb-22 12:03:19

Yes fleece the Royals they have far too much given to them they will never be short of money they won't miss it drop in the ocean.

The queen had transparency law changed to keep her wealth hidden from public view. Hides her money in tax haven. Has queen's consent to make sure she protects her private interests, laws she vets despite supposedly being above politics

The two duchies were not considered when first estimating civil list as not worth much then, has since grown massively Charles benefits over 20 million and queen. No inheritance tax ect The Duchy of Cornwall does not pay capital gains tax some ministers have raised questions.

Good for Verginia a victory and help for her charity.

Namsnanny Wed 16-Feb-22 12:14:57

Some people will be worried their turn is on the way
Do you mean Royals or 'friends' of Epstein mollygo?

Mollygo Wed 16-Feb-22 12:34:04

Namsnammy, Neither particularly. I meant politicians, ‘celebrities’ or actually, anyone with a claim to fame with a marketable sin for the media to use.

Sarnia Thu 17-Feb-22 08:45:42

The FBI have the original and she has lost the copy. And why eazybee do you thinks she should shut up? She has shone a light on a lot of seedy little men in a sordid world that otherwise may have gone unnoticed. There will be so many young girls being used and abused at this very moment should they shut up as well? I would have preferred her to take PA to court rather than accept hush money but she needed to stand up for herself and women in the same dreadful plight.

Anniebach Thu 17-Feb-22 08:48:50

She should have refused the settlement, what reason could she have for accepting it

Aveline Thu 17-Feb-22 08:50:51

Good point Anniebach

Galaxy Thu 17-Feb-22 08:52:14

I dont know the statistics in the US but in the UK conviction rate for rapes are now under 3%. I think with that rate of conviction anyone would be mad to go through a court case. I think you wouldne better adling what reason would you have for going to court faced with those statistics.

Galaxy Thu 17-Feb-22 08:52:55

My morning typing is awful smile