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Virginia Giuffre and the missing picture

(110 Posts)
tickingbird Tue 15-Feb-22 12:47:13

Apparently Prince Andrew’s accuser has lost the photograph of her and PA together. He has always maintained it’s fake and his legal team want it be examined.

Does anyone else find it odd that a photograph that has been kept for years has now suddenly been lost?

Anniebach Tue 15-Feb-22 16:32:14

He accepts Epstein trafficked young girls and regrets his association with Epstein, he is giving the money to the charity
to support young girls

Smileless2012 Tue 15-Feb-22 16:34:37

That's rather clever isn't it. Accepting Epstein trafficked young girls and regretting his association is a long way from admitting he had sex with a girl he knew had been trafficked.

Anniebach Tue 15-Feb-22 16:36:00

I assume she accepts it

Aveline Tue 15-Feb-22 16:36:05

Seems a reasonable way out of this mess. I bet the Queen's relieved.

Kalu Tue 15-Feb-22 16:41:21

A substantial sum - out of court hush money.

Elegran Tue 15-Feb-22 16:44:08

Germanshepherdsmum

I haven’t seen the yacht photo. Can anyone post a link to it?

PA and VG versus VG alone.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 15-Feb-22 16:44:47

Windsor was never going to court. Too much would come out.

Giuffre has played a blinder. This will followWindsor for the rest of his life and Giuffre’s character has been restored by Windsor’s statement.

TerriBull Tue 15-Feb-22 16:50:09

They've reached an out of court settlement, no doubt a thread on that will be imminent

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 15-Feb-22 16:51:55

I see it the other way round wwm. PA was adamant that he was going to testify, she was adamant she wouldn’t accept a settlement - then the photo went missing when PA’s lawyers wanted an expert to examine it and suddenly everything changed.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 15-Feb-22 16:55:03

No way. Windsor going to court in the middle of the Queens jubilee year!!?. It would run for months and months. That was just bravado on his part.

Sparklefizz Tue 15-Feb-22 16:56:33

Germanshepherdsmum

I see it the other way round wwm. PA was adamant that he was going to testify, she was adamant she wouldn’t accept a settlement - then the photo went missing when PA’s lawyers wanted an expert to examine it and suddenly everything changed.

I see it that way round too. I'm no fan of PA but that photo/lack of photo is significant imo.

merlotgran Tue 15-Feb-22 16:56:47

Breaking News…..Andrew has settled!

Whitewavemark2 Tue 15-Feb-22 16:58:00

Blimey as a solicitor that is a very naive statement.

How long do you think it has taken them to agree on the wording of the final statement by Windsor. That document would have been going back and forwards for weeks.

Of course the photo hadn’t been lost, and how do you know that the photo being produced as “evidence” was real?

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 15-Feb-22 16:59:44

It wasn’t bravado wwm. He was set to give evidence next month. She was dead set on her day in court, no settlement. Ask yourself what changed her mind.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 15-Feb-22 17:02:05

He was never going to court. It would have been a massive risk as evidence given would have almost certainly subsequently used for a criminal case.

It was never, never going to happen.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 15-Feb-22 17:02:49

You obviously have inside knowledge.

Smileless2012 Tue 15-Feb-22 17:08:12

How do you know the photo hasn't been lost, and what makes you think that it wasn't going to be produced as evidence Whitewavemark?

How do you know "He was never going to court"?

Judy54 Tue 15-Feb-22 17:18:46

She says that the FBI have the original photo and she has a copy.

JaneJudge Tue 15-Feb-22 17:41:35

Smileless2012

How do you know the photo hasn't been lost, and what makes you think that it wasn't going to be produced as evidence Whitewavemark?

How do you know "He was never going to court"?

she didn't say it was lost. The daily mail and sun have said, she said it was lost
she said it was not in her possession!

Iam64 Tue 15-Feb-22 17:43:07

I’m not surprised she doesn’t have the original.
I’m relieved they reached an agreed settlement. I heard some of it read out on the 4pm news. It sounded to have been well researched, discussed and agreed to the satisfaction of both parties. Good.

Anniebach Tue 15-Feb-22 17:45:02

Yes, it’s over

Smileless2012 Tue 15-Feb-22 17:52:53

When did she say that Judy?

welbeck Tue 15-Feb-22 17:56:36

so that's that then.
so no more threads on it all then ? ...maybe.

JaneJudge Tue 15-Feb-22 18:00:21

Smileless2012

When did she say that Judy?

if you are referring to me, it was in the Telegraph and other news story information

JaneJudge Tue 15-Feb-22 18:01:59

Oh god my other quoted post makes no sense of all grin She didn't say it was lost, she said it wasn't in her possession
The Sun and daily mail have ran with she has lost it, but as the hate women generally, maybe no one should be surprised by that