Harry starts High Court legal battle today

sorry Freya I don't understand what you mean.

Madgran77

*Taking away Harry's security sounds like a vindictive move from another member of the Royal family in my opinion*

No, it was a decision by the MET police based on the rules for providing public money funded security for Royalty. And not letting him pay is because of rules around not being able to "buy" publicly funded security provided by the Police! The Police are not for sale!!

The Royal Family were not involved in the decision, as the MET security decisions making takes precedence over individual preference. That is why Andrew was evidently a night mare to protect because he was so bloody minded about it, and expected security officers to obey orders rather than defer to their superior security knowledge. It is why Diana used to try to sneak out without security because they wouldn't always follow her wishes. It is also why many working Royals only get security when they are on Royal Duty ...and Harry and Family are no longer working Royals!!

I don’t think reality and facts come very high on the list for Sussex supporters?

Wow, well done him for standing up and fighting, that's the kind of thing that you learn when you lose your parent early and you're on your own. Why do people think money makes the slightest difference? Could easily make it worse. As for him 'easily being able to slip into the country'! Some hope, he had to leave Afghanistan the army career he loved because of the damn tabloids. They simply don't have a private life, no one in the celebrity or similar bracket does anymore. Appalling. I hope he wins.

Don’t you realise that if he wins it will set a precedent for every celebrity and oligarch buying police protection? Or that we as taxpayers will be footing the bill for the lawyers on both sides?

And don’t you think that standing up for himself has nothing to do with losing his mother but everything to do with having a litigious American wife?

He did have to move from his role in Afghanistan because of fears the Taliban would target his position and put other soldiers at risk, when the Press revealed his whereabouts.

But he didn’t have to leave the Army. Lots of positions that wouldn’t have involved that specific risk

No need to leave because of the Press.

They simply don't have a private life, no one in the celebrity or similar bracket does anymore. Appalling. I hope he wins.

Of course he has a private life if he wants it but he doesn’t. He could arrive in a private jet. He could arrange lots of things but he and Meghan don’t want that. They desire to be treated as befits their station, only their station changed once they announced they no longer wished to be part of the royal family. It’s quite clear Meghan enjoys being Duchess but doesn’t want the boring work that goes with it.

Germanshepherdsmum

Don’t you realise that if he wins it will set a precedent for every celebrity and oligarch buying police protection? Or that we as taxpayers will be footing the bill for the lawyers on both sides?

And don’t you think that standing up for himself has nothing to do with losing his mother but everything to do with having a litigious American wife?

Good point. Do some people really think there should be spare police protection officers just sitting around waitng for a call from the the likes of Harry? That won't happen.

I hope he wins

.... So the public purse pays for his security and then every private individual can demand the same if they feel they are in danger|!

I accept he may need security but NOT that it should be paid for from the public purse ...as per the rules I mentioned in my previous post!! .

I don't agree that he is standing up for himself. It's another way for the pair of them to draw attention to themselves and I certainly don't think that he has to stand up for himself or fight, because he lost his mother at a young age, and is on his own.

He's an adult, a husband and father and one of the things he moaned about was no longer being financially supported by his father despite being in his 30's.

Namsnanny

Yes Callistemon it is I look like I've been pulled through a hedge backwards, and I only popped out to anchor the garden chairs, incase they took off!

I thought it had died down so I came into the conservatory but the wind's got up again.

No I honestly don’t see why ordinary people should have to pay for his security. He doesn’t do anything for us.

I like a bit of return for my money?

tickingbird

*Taking away Harry's security sounds like a vindictive move from another member of the Royal family in my opinion.*

Do all non working royals get 24hr security? What happened to his mother was down to bad judgement and a failure on her part by not wearing a seat belt.

As it stands Harry can well afford to pay for his own security. Let’s face it how long is he intending to stay?

Even most working royals only get security when they are on royal duties.

The Queen, the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall and the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge receive round-the-clock protection. Other members of the family, including Princess Anne and Prince Edward, are understood to be guarded only while on official engagements

This is just another chapter in the PR war.

Nice little family is thwarted by nasty British Establishment from coming to see his Great Granny.

And judging from comments from fans, it works.

Boz

This is just another chapter in the PR war.

Nice little family is thwarted by nasty British Establishment from coming to see his Great Granny.

And judging from comments from fans, it works.

Well that’s your view. Nice little family, really. Ha ha.

Of course, let's pity QE for her grandson wanting to pay for security for his family, and not for shelling out millions for her son the pervert ?. Warped priorities.

Janamax

BlueBelle

I fully sympathise with his concerns. He was chased by reporters when he returned to Britain for the unveiling of his mother's statue, last year. Given what happened to his mother I can understand his worries about security which are fully justified I totally agree jannamax

I think he would like to be a normal person free to come and go but the media and some very nasty people would not allow it He must have his mums treatment very much in the top of his mind He has said he will pay
I can’t in a million years understand all the vitriol against him for nothing apart from him being seen as a traitor for leaving the country don’t blame his best thing he could have done for his family !!

Yes, I think a lot of hatred for him stems from a sense of betrayal that people feel against him. We are a country that has had Royalty play a large part in our lives and Harry is of a new generation that doesn't feel the same way and seeing how his mother was treated and the hatred that has been shown towards his American wife (which makes me feel ashamed to be British tbh) I don't blame him for wanting security when he comes to Britain.

Not hatred

Disillusionment.

I am not in the least bit bothered if Harry wanted to emigrate to America with his American wife - two less off the payroll and another step towards a slimmed down Monarchy although I'm sure that plenty of work could have been found for them.

However, leaving the Royal Family quietly and getting on with new careers over there out of the limelight is quite different to the performances we've seen from the pair of them. Trashing Harry's family so publically, whingeing about not being funded by Daddy, still wanting to retain the status of Royals yet not contributing anything, whingeing generally about how hard-done-by they are, just shows what self-centred individuals the pair of them are and how out of touch with the reality of most people's lives.

He's wanting to pay for something he can't have. What the Queen does or does not pay out for PA has nothing to do with it.

Boz

This is just another chapter in the PR war.

Nice little family is thwarted by nasty British Establishment from coming to see his Great Granny.

And judging from comments from fans, it works.

Time for Oprah again?
?

Freya5

Boz

This is just another chapter in the PR war.

Nice little family is thwarted by nasty British Establishment from coming to see his Great Granny.

And judging from comments from fans, it works.

Well that’s your view. Nice little family, really. Ha ha.

Irony. Not personal opinion.

Freya5

Boz

This is just another chapter in the PR war.

Nice little family is thwarted by nasty British Establishment from coming to see his Great Granny.

And judging from comments from fans, it works.

Well that’s your view. Nice little family, really. Ha ha.

I read Boz's post as irony, Freya

Part of the PR from the Sussexes

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*Ithink he would like to be a normal person free to come and go but the media and some very nasty people would not allow it He must have his mums treatment very much in the top of his mind He has said he will pay
I can’t in a million years understand all the vitriol against him for nothing apart from him being seen as a traitor for leaving the country don’t blame his best thing he could have done for his family !!*
People had sympathy for him in wanting to leave and have a quiet family life , until it became obvious that he wanted publicity and was prepared to air his dirty laundry globally

It is interesting that the Sussex Lawyers use his Royal Succession position (6) to demand protection for him and his family. This, I suspect, is from Duchess, who has been reported as saying;
"They can't take his birthright away" without the understanding you have to be a working royal to get protection.
I wonder if Meghan understands the difference between Duty to the Crown and Celebrity.

Sorry- first paragraph was a quote