You’d think this news would be front page‼️

Lab leaks are not uncommon. In the UK Foot and Mouth disease was leaked from a research lab via the drainage system, twice!

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In 2019, i worked for a chinese company based in the UK. They made us all redundant due to the fact the chinese economy was on a downturn and therefore could not keep us in employment if they were making people in china redundant as well. As soon as this virus surfaced a lot of us had the strong suspicion that it was man made and released to help the chinese recover their economy, by putting the rest of the world in a big hole, share prices plummeted to enable the chinese to get a bigger foothold in the worlds businesses and therefore rebuild their economy. this was all a money maker for them and to hell with the amount of people who lost everything, including lives!

Right at the beginning of the pandemic I said to DH that I thought it bore all the hallmarks of a lab created virus. It had to be unique as there was no natural immunity.
Which country cornered the market on PPE and face masks, well no surprises there.

I think that it was common knowledge that Covid was the result of a lab accident in Wuhan, China.

Whilst or not China has sanctioned the lab in question or not is probably best left as an internal decision. Accidents do happen. Most have no wide impact just very important information, but tragically on this occasion this has not been the case.

If it came from a lab I'd be very surprised if it was deliberate, unless a rogue scientist was responsible.

Why would it be released into one of their own cities?

Casdon. growstuff Iam64

When a poster makes up nonsense ie I’ve somehow posted I’m being controlled which I didn’t and no mature person had reason to deduce from my comment that’s what I was saying, then I find it childish. Somehow that’s triggered the mean girls to come out to play. Carry on ladies. Pile away. I’m only surprised certain others haven’t joined in it yet but I dare say one in particular will. Have fun

We’ve travelled all over and almost every country we’ve visited big or small has links to China in some way - they are prepared to spend a lot of money and play a long game.
I noted from the start of the pandemic the name was rapidly changed from Chinese flu to Covid - WHA said they didn’t want to stigmatise China. I’m sure Taiwan is nervous at the moment too.

Whilst I agree that, as a country, we are unlikely to impose sanctions against China - each and everyone of us has the choice to stop buying 'made in China' goods. Yes, it can be tricky. Yes, they are cheap (and often cheap quality!). But - we can all of us make a stand. Maybe save up just a little bit more to buy locally made, or at least non-China produced goods. It is possible - my daughter has taken this stance when it came to buying anything for her new baby. Took a little longer to source items but well worth it. I refuse to buy anything made in China - would rather go without.

Everything I've read in the scientific literature says all the evidence suggests it was NOT a lab leak, deliberate or otherwise. The reason the lab is in Wuhan is because coronviruses are very common there so it's where they study them (the same as having a lab researching ebola where ebola is very common). It came from bats, probably via an intermediate species of mammal.

I’m a conspiracy theorist so I always thought it was “man made”.

China was looking into viruses in a serious way.
As far back as 2012 when 3 men removing slab from derelict copper mine fell ill and died of pneumonia.

In May 2019 Wuhan Institute of Virology undertook renovation of booster equipment and air conditioning in September.

Wuhan Institute of Virology Virol pathogen database created 20/06/2019. The project looked at 100 new viruses and analysed 10 important viruses and identified major pathogens from wild animals.
China denied research on bats yet bat cages were seen on their promotion videos.
There's a lot China isn't straight with us.

There are many theories and opinions on how or even why covid19 originated in Wuhan, where the laboratories are, but to my mind, the most feasible explanation is that the leak was due to the lab animals which had been used in testing, being sold in the wet markets rather than being destroyed as they should have been. I read this in an article published in the New York Times months ago, and have always thought it a very viable explanation.

There still is no proof. "Behind closed doors" people are still saying that Elvis is alive and working in a chip shop. Not saying its not a good thing but how will beefing up UK biosecurity help with what other countries do?

JaneD666 Fri 25-Feb-22 12:36:03
“Everything I've read in the scientific literature says all the evidence suggests it was NOT a lab leak, deliberate or otherwise. The reason the lab is in Wuhan is because coronviruses are very common there so it's where they study them (the same as having a lab researching ebola where ebola is very common). It came from bats, probably via an intermediate species of mammal.”

My experience is exactly the same! I even read a scientific article a few days ago, “confirming” the virus was a “natural”

A planned leak, yes!

Never heard that one " it's a good day to release bad news"? I always knew that all this was never caused by one bloody bat!!!

Corona viruses? Like? What do you mean?

THERE IS NO NEW EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS A LAB LEAK.

YOU ARE BEING MISLED.

Sorry, I felt shouting was justified.

Quite! Your dead right.

volver

THERE IS NO NEW EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS A LAB LEAK.

YOU ARE BEING MISLED.

Sorry, I felt shouting was justified.

Misled by whom?

I couldn't possibly say.

(The Telegraph and the right wing press)

I think the world jury is still out on this one. Seems the popular belief is it originated in Wuhan, but no evidence for or against. Was Mr Trump the only one to say it out loud. And was he right.?

harrigran

Right at the beginning of the pandemic I said to DH that I thought it bore all the hallmarks of a lab created virus. It had to be unique as there was no natural immunity.
Which country cornered the market on PPE and face masks, well no surprises there.

The fact of no natural immunity is not an indication of artificially modified virus. No immunity to rabies for the longest time and still a bit hit and miss but a naturally occurring virus. I was suspicious of the violent snatching and mailing of the doctor who raised the first alarm , not the actions of authorities concerned that another sars/mers outbreak was afoot? Suspicions proven justified.

#JAILING OF DOCTOR