Ukrainians fleeing Putin are refused entry to the U.K.

To be fair Whitewavemark2 Ukrainians have got to go through multiple countries to reach the U.K.

The U.K. is prioritising those with U.K. connections, there are no flights for them so they will be travelling overland. If the videos of the Ukrainian Border are to be believed most are abandoning their vehicles as the queues are horrendously long (being reported as 60+ hours) so they will be reliant on trains, buses and/or the kindness of strangers/friends/relatives in those Countries.

I should imagine that we shall see refugees arriving in the coming days and by then a system should be in place.

(Poland is telling those fleeing to bring their pets with them and they will be welcomed also)

There will be possibly 4 million people fleeing and probably millions more if Putin uses the heavy weaponry that he has threatened us with.

We must take our fair share they can’t all stop at the border.

So if you were a Ukrainian fleeing for your life and hopefully being given a temporary home with your relative in the U.K., how would you go about entry?

I’m simply clarifying the facts around the particular tweet you’ve based your thread on. This has clearly annoyed you.

Find somebody else to pick a fight with.

I'm ashamed of my country.
It is easier for an Oligarchs son to get into the House Of Lords, than it is for a Ukrainian refugee to get into the UK

Lifted from Twitter.

The idiotic Tory MP who tweeted that Ukrainian refugees can apply to pick fruit and veg here has deleted his tweet. Not only is he a moral vacuum he is stupid; it has been copied all over twitter.

Whitewavemark2

There will be possibly 4 million people fleeing and probably millions more if Putin uses the heavy weaponry that he has threatened us with.

We must take our fair share they can’t all stop at the border.

I do hope we will take in refugees when they get here.

At a guess, NATO and individual Countries will have to start providing transport soon.

Maggiemaybe

^So if you were a Ukrainian fleeing for your life and hopefully being given a temporary home with your relative in the U.K., how would you go about entry?^

I’m simply clarifying the facts around the particular tweet you’ve based your thread on. This has clearly annoyed you.

Find somebody else to pick a fight with.

?. I never get annoyed- why would I? Just asking a perfectly reasonable question.

I've just been on Twitter and following.

Maudi

Seems they are fleeing Paris is it that bad there?

Can you please tell me where you are finding this information please as it isn’t on being discussed here on the 24 hour news channel?

Where are you maudi please explain

Whitewavemark2

There will be possibly 4 million people fleeing and probably millions more if Putin uses the heavy weaponry that he has threatened us with.

We must take our fair share they can’t all stop at the border.

Exactly. We need to get those out who want to come and have relatives who can take them in first and foremost. That should be simple to arrange. We must relieve the pressure on those dealing with the people at the immediate border. While we are doing that we should be getting ready to take more.

Why is this at all surprising? If you are prepared to let people drown, if you keep asylum seekers waiting for years, if you change legislation so that people fleeing wars are labelled as criminals if they enter the UK using different routes why on earth would anyone even imagine this government would welcome Ukranian refugees?
They are simply applying the standards they have always held

GrannyGravy13

To be fair Whitewavemark2 Ukrainians have got to go through multiple countries to reach the U.K.

The U.K. is prioritising those with U.K. connections, there are no flights for them so they will be travelling overland. If the videos of the Ukrainian Border are to be believed most are abandoning their vehicles as the queues are horrendously long (being reported as 60+ hours) so they will be reliant on trains, buses and/or the kindness of strangers/friends/relatives in those Countries.

I should imagine that we shall see refugees arriving in the coming days and by then a system should be in place.

(Poland is telling those fleeing to bring their pets with them and they will be welcomed also)

Have you read the OP- those people turned away at Gare du Nord, stopped from boarding the Eurostar- have family in the UK who have begged them to flee and come to them- They will house them and feed them, and look after them.

But they still got to go through all the red tape of applying for Visa, and prove they have sufficient funds. And this does not apply to anyone who is a dependent adult. So if a woman flees with her kids and her mother- even if she gets a Visa, she will have to dump mother in Paris.

Please read this thread to understand how it works

www.freemovement.org.uk/can-ukrainians-take-refuge-in-the-uk-immigration-concessions-and-asylum-policy/

And especially this case study

Sasha lives in Ukraine with her British wife, Wanda. Fearing an imminent wholescale invasion of Ukraine, Sasha applies for a spouse visa using the family reunion form.

She is unable to meet the financial requirement of the Appendix FM spouse rules because they both work in Ukraine, they have no other income or savings and Wanda does not have a job offer starting within three months of her return to the UK. Although Sasha speaks excellent English, she has not had the chance to sit a SELT English language test to prove it.

Sasha explains this in a letter provided in support of the application, as well as the reason why she and Wanda need to leave Ukraine as soon as possible. She also provides evidence that they are both economically active and that she completed a series of English language qualifications which do not meet the requirements but nevertheless show that the requirements would likely be met if they had more time to plan for the application. (This additional evidence is not essential but it is helpful.)

Sasha attends a biometrics appointment in Kyiv. Within two days, her application is granted and she is given leave outside the Rules for 12 months. Her visa vignette is endorsed with three months of leave to enter, so she needs to enter the UK during that period and then pick up her 12-month biometric residence permit.

Before the 12 months expire, Sasha makes an in-country spouse application, this time evidencing her job in the UK and the SELT English language test that she passed. She is given 30 months permission to stay and should be eligible to apply for settlement after five years.

Note that if Sasha were able to meet all of the requirements when she lodged the application from Ukraine, she would instead have been granted the usual 33 months of permission to enter as a spouse.

As usual the EU will be blamed by the British press for any difficulty
encountered by a Ukrainian.

Noticeable silence from the Russian funded anti immigration spokespeople such as Aaron Banks and Nigel Farage. Presumably he who pays the piper calls the tune eh?

Farage is tweeting from the US. Complaining about all sort of stuff like LGBTQ rights and why Biden isn't in Europe and how he's been warning about this for 30 years.

He really is a wanker. See this, Farage supporters. See what your man is like. Appeaser and apologist.

Yup Volver, he is a repellent little man. He is getting a pasting on Twitter, many are referring to him as Lord Haw Haw. Aaron Banks, who bankrolled Leave.eu campaign is another one who is on the Putin payroll, read about his libel case against Carole Cadwallader, the investigative journalist, and even the most ardent of Brexiteers will realise, finally, just why Brexit happened and who funded it. For those about to post that this isn't relevant to what is happening to Ukraine, well, yes it is actually. Your right wing Tory government, your ERG members, are in it up to their necks with Russian funding, what did you think it was all about? Entry visas for stars of the Bolshoi ballet?

Those poor Ukrainians should be let in to the UK without question and allowed to stay until this awfull situation is over.

Whitewavemark2

Maudi

Seems they are fleeing Paris is it that bad there?

My heart goes out to you.

I had no idea that you had received a empathetic by-pass

Great post

Good post Gill57

@ukhomeoffice
has denied entry to a 69 yr old Ukrainian widow, fleeing the fighting in Kharkiv, to join her daughter in the UK. They suggested she apply for a visitor visa or remain in France, where she has no relatives & doesn’t speak French.

Katya Adler
@BBCkatyaadler
· 20m
EU announces it has agreed unanimously amongst all member countries to take in Ukrainian refugees for up to 3 years without asking them to first apply for asylum. Just been announced following a meeting of EU Interior ministers.

But you know, bendy bananas and blue passports. It was all worth it.

I need to tell my sister in law that her son is out there for no good reason. Maybe he could read these posts from people who know nothing about what's happening. Relying on tweets. It's pathetic and just misinformation. How you can attempt to score political points at a time like this beats me.

This wasn't hugely covered in the news at the time, but my nephew is one of many troops sent to Ukraine to work out the logistics of the refugees. People are working flat out but of course you all know best.

This war has been going on for 4 days. It's a nightmare. Refugees that have been heading to Poland are taking 24+ hours to get there.

I do hope that you're enjoying yourselves with your misinformation.

Who is that aimed at Zoejory? Me?

Probably best not to share on social media what the troops are doing in theatre of war. That's probably why it wasn't covered in the news.

You might even want to ask to have it deleted, I'm actually quite worried about it.