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The Prime Minister said there must be some parental involvement if children make life-changing decisions about gender.

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Urmstongran Wed 06-Apr-22 13:48:19

I totally agree with this decision. Children when young can be easily influenced or uncertain.

“I don't think that it's reasonable for kids to be deemed so-called Gillick-competent to take decisions about their gender or irreversible treatments that they may have. I think there should be parental involvement at the very least," he said.

Better late than never Boris.

Lucca Thu 07-Apr-22 02:39:46

maddyone

Agree with everything that you’ve said snowberry.

Including saying this *I'm also horrified how many teachers are pandering to this nonsense..
By allowing this mass brainwashing in schools they are failing to safeguard our children*. ? Really ?

DiamondLily Thu 07-Apr-22 04:43:31

The trouble with Johnson is that he says one thing one day, and then doesn't follow through with it.

He just says what he thinks will make him popular on the day, and the May elections are coming up...?

I hope he sticks to it, although I still wouldn't vote for him, to be honest, because I think this government are trashing this country in so many ways.

But, Starmer needs to get a grip here. It really would be a shame if Labour lost the rising support they currently have just because of this.?

NannyJaneAnne Thu 07-Apr-22 07:12:18

Most psychotherapists believe that the brain isn't fully developed until you are 25. Terrifying that you could make a life changing decision at 18.

DiamondLily Thu 07-Apr-22 07:51:59

It possibly is, but it's more concerning that young children are being assisted to go down a road they may not fully understand,

At 18, a person is considered an adult, capable of making their own decisions, so I don't suppose you could stop them doing as they wish.

DiamondLily Thu 07-Apr-22 08:08:07

Rosie51

On 26th January 2022 Scotland (in line with some other countries) brought in sentencing guidelines for under 25s, based on worldwide scientific research, because the brain is not fully developed before then. Yet we think children are 'brain developed' enough to make decisions and take medications that have irreversible effects on their growing bodies.

I struggle to understand how a 2 year old could be so cognisant about the differences between boys and girls to want to be the other. Surely children of that age are still very much 'gender neutral' without outside influences? I'm glad it's worked out for the child you know. Children have all sorts of ideas about what they want to be. My 4 year old niece really, really wanted to be a horse and would frolic around and neigh, but we didn't affirm she was one. In her nativity play at nursery school they wanted her to be Mary, she insisted she'd be the donkey since there was no horse character. Puberty can be pretty awful for anyone. My grandson with severe autism and learning difficulties is finding puberty extremely distressing.

I don't quite understand a two year old having this view either. That is extremely young to be holding that sort of conversation.

At that age, I would think they are just toddlers, with no understanding of what sex/gender is what.

When my children/grandchildren were two, their only important (to them) thoughts revolved around going to the swing park, reading picture books, and singing The Wheels on the Bus at top volume etc...?

When I was about 6, my parents took me to see the film King of Kings, which had just been released at cinemas. I apparantly spent the next 6 months, with a Tea Towel on my head, clutching a doll, wanting to be the Virgin Mary lol. That didn't come to pass though.?

Which all seemed pretty normal. Glad it all worked out for the young person though.

Esspee Thu 07-Apr-22 08:53:11

That’s the first thing I have heard Boris say lately that I agree with.

Urmstongran Thu 07-Apr-22 09:00:34

Me too Espee - well that plus his stance on Ukraine ??
Whereas Starmer can’t commit as to whether a person with a penis can be regarded as a woman. Labour are so mixed up and tripping over themselves so as ‘not to offend’ on this issue, it’s actually embarrassing listening to them all.

Esspee Thu 07-Apr-22 09:03:09

My brother, at one time, decided he was a pirate. This continued for a couple of years so not a short term whim.

Did my parents help him have his leg partially amputated and replaced with a peg leg? Did they buy him a parrot? No they didn’t. They told him that it wasn’t possible but he could pretend to be a pirate if he wished. He grew out of it.

DiamondLily Thu 07-Apr-22 09:18:29

Starmer is making silly errors, trying to appease all sides of the party, but, overall, I still think he's less of a disaster than Johnson.

Johnson talks the talk, as he did with the Ukrainian refugees, and how welcome they would be - but now there's obstacles being thrown down to actually stop them actually getting here.

Plus, of course, the way the poorest are being hammered by this government, and have been since Tories took power in 2010.?

Different people have different voting priorities though.

MerylStreep Thu 07-Apr-22 09:24:41

Please tell me I’m not the only one who thinks of this scene in The Life Of Brian everytime we have these threads.
It’s the one where Stan wants to have a baby.

www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3881685405244930

MissAdventure Thu 07-Apr-22 09:49:46

grin

DiamondLily Thu 07-Apr-22 15:13:43

MerylStreep

Please tell me I’m not the only one who thinks of this scene in The Life Of Brian everytime we have these threads.
It’s the one where Stan wants to have a baby.

www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3881685405244930

Or perhaps...."They are not women, just very naughty boys".... sort of from the other scene lol

It does get a bit surreal...?