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DaisyAnne

This is the ship that was sunk. Even more impressive when you see it.

DH ex RN Warfare Officer , says Russian Ship tend to be top heavy, this was an old ship, she has been around since the 1980 's.
Russia says she was on fire, unless the crew filled her with too much water she shouldn't have sunk, (per DH)

We will find out as there was USA spy plane flying over the area (seen on flight radar)

This sinking has probably escalated the Russian attack, far more worrying for those poor Ukraine people.

The Forces expert (I'm sure he has a more impressive title) on Sky said the Ukraine forces may have fired four missiles but only two hits. His explanation for the fire on board is that one may have hit one of the tubes on deck - presumably, they are armed.

He also commented that only 100 of 500 crew have been accounted for, by the Russians, to the rest of the world. That may not mean anything, of course. They may just be regrouping and not wanting to put out information.

maddyone

I saw that this had happened on the news earlier today, and I believe it is very good news Maizie so thank you for starting a new thread about it. I find myself drawn to news programmes at the moment in order to follow the latest developments in Ukraine. It’s not good for me as sometimes I become quite upset about it, but I feel compelled to keep up with it.

....^I'm compelled to keep up^
I feel the same way.
As if it's the least I can do.
The press have begun to turn the attention to other things now.
I feel disloyal(?) if I dont at least keep abreast of events.

Thank you for beginning another thread MaiseD

For those of you who want to keep up I can really recommend the mumsnet threads. They're on thread no. 20 now! Lots of up to date information and intelligent discussion.

I linked to the latest in the OP. It's currently on p.29.

Thank you for understanding Namsnanny and for you too. The celebration of new life and renewed life at Easter seems so hollow in the present circumstances doesn’t it?

GrannyGravy13

There are some very powerful images on the internet of women in Tallin outside of the Russian Embassy, protesting against the brutal rape and torture of Ukrainian women and children.

They have bags over their heads, their hands are bound behind their backs their lower garments are removed apart from some wearing pants, they all have red dye running down their legs.

They were so quiet and standing with dignity something that was an option for the victims in Ukraine.

What a powerful sight that must have been GG13.

Visgir1

DaisyAnne

This is the ship that was sunk. Even more impressive when you see it.

DH ex RN Warfare Officer , says Russian Ship tend to be top heavy, this was an old ship, she has been around since the 1980 's.
Russia says she was on fire, unless the crew filled her with too much water she shouldn't have sunk, (per DH)

We will find out as there was USA spy plane flying over the area (seen on flight radar)

This sinking has probably escalated the Russian attack, far more worrying for those poor Ukraine people.

It was a 43 year old cruiser - ironically built in Ukraine in the days of the Soviet occupation.
Launched in 1979 so, yes, it was an old ship.

volver.
No he's not
Read it again.

Crikey, volver, you'll be setting lines next or sending people to see the headmaster

A company supporting Putin

“Dyson - the Conservative party donor technology company - has reiterated its support once again for Putin’s regime by refusing, not just to stop trading with Russia, but also to keep all its customer sales and support business going in Moscow.”

This morning I had to turn off the news. It’s the first time I’ve done it because I feel compelled to keep up with it normally. Turning it off seems so disrespectful somehow. But the sheer heartbreak of bereaved citizens of Ukraine this morning, I just had to turn it off. I’m really not turning the other cheek, but not watching feels like I am.

maddyone

This morning I had to turn off the news. It’s the first time I’ve done it because I feel compelled to keep up with it normally. Turning it off seems so disrespectful somehow. But the sheer heartbreak of bereaved citizens of Ukraine this morning, I just had to turn it off. I’m really not turning the other cheek, but not watching feels like I am.

I find so much is now making me tearful.

Tbh we have had such a bellyful over the past few years I think that it is beginning to be more difficult to cope.

Yes Whitewave, you’re absolutely right. I have the feeling that this latest war will go on for a while. I hope not, dear God I hope not. We find it hard, but we know how much harder for them. It’s being unable to do anything except donate that’s difficult too.

How long are these promised weapons going to take to get to the heroic people in the south?

I've just sobbed watching the news. Those poor innocent children. And young men and women fighting for their country. Alone.
Heartbreaking.
While we all go to our comfortable beds.
Putin will have to be stopped sooner or later.

I’m sad to say I have been unable to keep up with the news from Ukraine. ?

I’ve been having some really awful nightmares, so I’m afraid all the news is being filtered through my husband at the moment. I haven’t even read this whole thread in case there’s something disturbing that will either set me off crying or give me bad dreams. Next month it will be 12 years since my son-in-law was killed in Afghanistan and I can’t really cope with war news at the moment.

grannyactivist

Two British soldiers captured or who had to surrender to the Russians are on social media. No one knows anything about where he is or the state he is in, not even his wife. It seems he might be being used for Russian propaganda.
They will not be the only two poor things. Not a happy Easter for them.

Callistemon21

Visgir1

DaisyAnne

This is the ship that was sunk. Even more impressive when you see it.

DH ex RN Warfare Officer , says Russian Ship tend to be top heavy, this was an old ship, she has been around since the 1980 's.
Russia says she was on fire, unless the crew filled her with too much water she shouldn't have sunk, (per DH)

We will find out as there was USA spy plane flying over the area (seen on flight radar)

This sinking has probably escalated the Russian attack, far more worrying for those poor Ukraine people.

It was a 43 year old cruiser - ironically built in Ukraine in the days of the Soviet occupation.
Launched in 1979 so, yes, it was an old ship.

I am still impressed by what the Ukraine forces managed to achieve. I'm not sure why being "old" matters. It seems to have been the pride of the Russian fleet. That, of course, asks questions about that fleet but not about the achievement in taking out the flagship of the Russian Navy.

I am worried about the next month. I so hope Putin doesn’t achieve his ambition.

grannyactivist (((hugs))) condolences on the loss of your son-in-law.

We were one of the lucky ones, our son came home, but those who returned will never forget those who did not, please take what little comfort you can in that ???

So sorry Grannyactivist.

I'm going to avoid the news for a while, have had two really anxious nights sleep with bad dreams.

Please accept my kindest thoughts as well grannyactivist

Link to the latest mumsnet thread started on Saturday.

I'd suggest going straight to the last page and then going back 3 or 4 to get the latest info they're sharing.

It looks as though the Ukraine Army is doing well with cutting supply chains.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4531511-ukraine-invasion-part-21

Just random things I've seen ⬇

There is some chatter about the Russian army being under strength and Ukraine hampering the build up of forces for a Russian offensive in the south; rumours of forces refusing to fight.

And, irony, it is rumoured that the packages of looted goods which Russian soldiers have been sending off to their families have been stolen by Russian postal workers...

Thanks MaizieD interesting

GrannyGravy13

According to Sky News President Putin is threatening to use nuclear missiles if Sweden and Finland join NATO…

No, he’s not threatening to use nuclear missiles - he’s threatening to deploy hypersonic and nuclear missile systems in Russia’s Kaliningrad exclave - between Poland and Lithuania. This would effectively end any thought of a nuclear free Baltic, as Russia has said it needs to ‘restore the balance’ and keep NATO away from its’ borders. It’s intended to intimidate Finland and Sweden into abandoning ideas of joining NATO as they would then have to live with nuclear weapons and hypersonic missiles close to home as a result.