Was Prince Charles right to make his views about the Rwanda plan widely known?

All sorts of issues could be described as nothing to do with politics ( I am not sure I agree but let's go with it) abortion, gay rights etc. Are you ok with PC expressing his views on those issues. And he may not agree with you on thse issues.

I take your point Galaxy, worthy of thought.
Is it to do with right and wrong?
Gay rights is about equality, as is racism, feminism, etc. therefore always an absolute right to equality.
Abortion has too many variables. A woman’s right to choose especially where rape, poor physical health or poor mental health are involved as opposed to a child’s right to life. No absolute right or wrong.
I suppose, in conclusion, my opinion is that Charles should speak out only where there is absolute right. Will give it more thought and come back tomorrow.

When did it happen that you thought only people who agree with you should say anything Galaxy. Or are you suggesting that is how others act?

I think this is an interesting situation because the issue is about our government breaching human rights and breaking international law. In these circumstances I think it's right for PC to speak out, and I think it would be right for him to comment on it and do something about it if he was Head of State. In other issues where some people have different opinions on whether something is right or wrong, or where something is party political, then he should not be speaking out

Charles will be representing the Queen when he goes to the Commonwealth Conference in Rawanda (where the topic is sure to arise. What is he supposed to do/say then?

It must be very difficult to be put on the spot like this and difficult for other Commonwealth Countries to understand why the Royals will not speak about such matters. The decisions are after all made by

HER MAJESTIE'S GOVERNMENT

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LauraNorderr

I’m a fully paid up member of the Conservative Party. I’d say I’m right of centre but I won’t stand by and let this happen. I’ve written to my MP and will not vote Conservative again if this policy happens.
Prince Charles is right to be concerned and should say so publicly. Not politics, just basic humanity.

That is so heartening.

Very.

If it was said in private, it should not have been shared. If it was said in public, I salute him. The idea that we are doing this is gross.

He didn't actually speak out, as far as I understand. He expressed a view in a private conversation. I'm no royalist but he's entitled to an opinion. Now, I'd quite like to know who gave an exclusive to two newspapers!

He probably has a pretty good idea who it was.

The UK has one of the most expensive, ostentatious and unreformed monarchies in the democratic world. They currently face accusations of cash-for-access, racism and failing to cooperate with US law-enforcement #AbolishTheMonarchy

They are not facing allegations of racism , please don’t lie

The Royal Family by its very nature is a racist institution
Only white people classism bowing and curtsying
Colonialism slavery

Queen had anti discrimination laws changed.

The household used to ban black and Asian immigrants from staff appointments. The palace also successfully lobbied to be exempted from race laws that ban discrimination in the workplace.

Queen mother was known racist some stuff she said could not be printed. P Philip was known for making racist comments on official tours.

Anniebach

They are not facing allegations of racism , please don’t lie

Anniebach the Royal family are facing allegations of racism.

You may not believe it or you may feel that they are not guilty, but you can't call people liars when they repeat the truth.

I would be happy with PC saying anything he liked Daisy, my beliefs on free speech even extend to PC. However I am.interested if other people would be happy with regard to him expressing his views on abortion for example. You cant just say it's ok because it's about human rights because other people will have very different views on what is/isnt human rights. I think to be honest it's about the position of the monarchy rather than free speech as such. If PC wasnt king in all but name it wouldnt matter what he said.

Do post full facts of your allegations not something from your
republican sites.

I wonder if Prince Charles has ever looked at Gransnet, he would be heartened by all the support I should think.
How awful to possibly have said something in private and find it all over the papers. Of course we don't actually know which bit of the plan was appalling.
The Queen Mother has been gone a long time now and her views were not uncommon, like it or not.

Galaxy I thought the same, if he gave his opinion on abortion
on demand would this be acceptable

Anniebach

Do post full facts of your allegations not something from your
republican sites.

Republican sites? ITV? Book by Tina Brown reviewed in the Independent?

There are allegations of racism. You don't believe them, I'm sure. But there are allegations of racism.

www.itv.com/news/2021-08-19/rift-over-racism-claims-reignited-between-harry-and-meghan-and-the-

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/meghan-buckingham-palace-racism-allegations-b2063160.htmlqueen

Callistemon21

Is he wrong to speak out on what is essentially a humanitarian issue?

I don't think so. He is not the Sovereign.

I wonder what he thinks of foodbanks.

I think Maddyone has a point when she says^
If Charles involves himself in politics in the future, we may find ourselves on the road to being a republic which will suit me.^

I think you have to divorce the issue from the fact you may agree with PC, which I do, it's not really the point. There are probably some issues I agree with Trump on, I imagine he says the world is round so I would agree with him on that, so what. PC expressing his views on this is utterly irrelevant to me, I hold it of no more importance than what Bob down the street says on the issue. The trouble is other people ascribe importance to the words of PC because of who he is.

Anniebach

They are not facing allegations of racism , please don’t lie

I am not lying

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/02/buckingham-palace-banned-ethnic-minorities-from-office-roles-papers-reveal

Exclusive: Documents also shed light on Queen’s ongoing exemption from race and sex discrimination laws

LauraNorderr, thank you for making my day. Surely, being a humanitarian binds us all together, whatever our political persuasion - even PC.

luluaugust

I wonder if Prince Charles has ever looked at Gransnet, he would be heartened by all the support I should think.
How awful to possibly have said something in private and find it all over the papers. Of course we don't actually know which bit of the plan was appalling.
The Queen Mother has been gone a long time now and her views were not uncommon, like it or not.

I think he knows and fully expected it to be made public.

He has already said that he knows full well that he could not express these views if he was H of S, which I am sure he would find very frustrating.

Our H of S is supposed to be apolitical.

In a monarchy, a king or queen is Head of State. The British Monarchy is known as a constitutional monarchy. This means that, while The Sovereign is Head of State, the ability to make and pass legislation resides with an elected Parliament.

The Queen's role in Government
As Head of State The Queen has to remain strictly neutral with respect to political matters.

It does not mean that Prince Charles has to remain neutral

What is supposed to happen when an elected Parliament pushes through legislation that is contrary to international law?

What is the point of an apolitical Head of State that allows that to happen?

On reflection I do agree that our Head of State must appear to be apolitical in public, must not be seen to be supporting or opposing policy and thereby potentially influencing us politically. I sincerely hope that HM does express her displeasure to the PM during their private audience.
While Prince Charles is not Head of State I’m pleased to see that he is not afraid to give a stage whisper of disapproval of such a heinous policy and stand by my earlier comment that this is about humanity not politics.