Refugees

Read the 1951 Refugee convention. And then you will have a greater understanding.

The migrants are risking their lives anyway and have done in their journey , so the risk of deportation is minimal. There are hundreds more who wash up on beaches who don’t make themselves known to the authorities and live under the radar - easy to work here with no papers/ ID cards. That’s what many of them will do and one reason why the U.K. is attractive. I’m sure France are only too happy to wave them off.

I agree.

Its not France's responsibility to keep them imprisoned and stop them leaving .In whatever way they want .Just the same as its not the UK's responsibility to make rules that suit France.
Isn't/wasn't that what Brexit was about ? You wanted sovereignty ,to control your OWN borders ...so do it .Dont depend on others doing it for you .
Sadly the UK government ,although having the power to control borders all along sat back and expected it done for them .While we were in the EU that may have been acceptable but not now .
You changed the circumstances ,you need to deal with the issue.This has just shown how badly the home office is run,if they have to resort to spending £500K on a plane to take 7 ...that is SEVEN refugees ,thousands of miles then there is a massive problem with the people who run it .
The whole system is rotten from the top down.

The plane didn't fly. All refugees were taken off, thank goodness. Thanks to human rights lawyers fighting hard.

They didn't even manage the seven in the end, did they? What a waste of time and money!

I totally agree with you, paddyann.

Perhaps it’s time we aligned with Europe and issued I.D. cards then if that would make working in the ‘black economy’ more difficult. Seems daft not to. “What about our civil liberties though?” the detractors always shout. Well, at 5 million ££s a DAY to house, feed, supply mobile phones and medical aid to these migrants, we need to re-think something. Or shall we just give up trying to reverse the tide and say ‘come one, come all’ to register & work. But then - when would our little island be considered ‘full’? Never??

'Come one, come all' that's Labour and the Lib Dems stance open borders let the British tax payer pay. That's why Labour/Lib Dems will never win a general election.

Maudi

'Come one, come all' that's Labour and the Lib Dems stance open borders let the British tax payer pay. That's why Labour/Lib Dems will never win a general election.

What utter tripe

It's the truth that's why they will never be power.

Its not the truth Maudi. Its propaganda and lies that you believe.

This obsession with “mobile phones”…how else could anybody manage to travel, apply for visas, find work, maintain contact with family. Seriously, how ?

From the Times 18/4/22

So, these poor ‘swapped’ refugees are not going to cost Britain anything?
The Government are involved in human trafficking.

When I first heard they were being sent to Rwanda I was amazed, the son of a good friend who lived there for many years had to live in a compound with armed guards and no he is not white. I know from various threads that Gransnetters live all over the place but for those of us in Kent this is a real everyday problem and we saw from the village with the unused army camp how people, who don't usually see the problem, actually feel when confronted with it. I wonder what the boat people think when they have been here a while, they are trapped on an island they can't walk into another country as they can on mainland Europe.

Just adds to the cost Lucca it’s not as though they’re ringing round the job centres is it? Calling friends and family to let them know how they’re doing more like. Who pays for their top up ‘pay as you go” cards? Us. Probably.

Urmstongran

Just adds to the cost Lucca it’s not as though they’re ringing round the job centres is it? Calling friends and family to let them know how they’re doing more like. Who pays for their top up ‘pay as you go” cards? Us. Probably.

How can they do any admin things without a mobile phone, ?you have not explained

I feel very stupid here but...
Ten o'clock news last night talked about spending millions of pounds on taking people thousands of miles away. These people will be offered housing and jobs.
Later on companies were talking about needing to attract people here, skilled and unskilled, because there aren't enough to do the jobs.
I don't understand why the first set of people can't be given the opportunity to fill the need. Is it simply that we don't have the ingenuity to make it possible safely?
I'm expecting to be called naïve and simplistic, but sometimes the simple solution works.

Calling friends and family to let them know how they’re doing more like.

Is that the friends and family they've had to leave behind in countries with dreadful human rights records? The friends and family they worry about 24 hours a day, while the person they have sent to the UK to help them is demonised or transported to a country they know nothing about?

Or is it a way for their lawyers to get in touch with them to let them know that they are not going to be illegally deported after all?

Have some common sense, really.

I do hope you are right Maudi
At least even the Left-leaning BBC news is now laying out the scale of the problem by reporting on the ever-increasing numbers turning up uninvited on our shores on a daily basis.

Thankfully most of the population here is well aware that this dangerous, illegal people-smuggling operation has to be defeated.

I am optimistic that the government will, despite every obstacle flung at it, succeed eventually.

As Urms has pointed out, this people smuggling operation costs British taxpayers, around £5 million pounds A DAY.

Heaven help us if Labour get into power otherwise it really will be a free for all.

10/6/22 From The House of Commons Library Research briefing from the UK-Rwandan Migrant

Just in case anyone thinks that sending Refugees to Rwanda is cost free.

Sorry posted too soon!
And Economic Development Partnership.

The article this time !!

If the government changed the regulations and permitted asylum seekers to work they wouldn't be such a financial burden. They want to work and build lives for themselves, instead they are held in a sort of limbo for years, not knowing if they will be allowed to stay, dependent on handouts and unable to find out how their application is going. It's a ridiculous situation. I met one woman, she had an arts degree, spoke excellent English and was volunteering because she was unable to do paid work, she had no idea what would happen to her and said it was impossible to find anything out. One reason they need a mobile phone is to try and find out how their application for asylum is progressing.

lixy Thank you! I have been wondering why we can’t do this. We need workers in the UK surely?? I’m watching with interest.