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Boris Back by Christmas! ?

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FannyCornforth Sun 04-Sept-22 11:55:38

The plotting to get shut of Truss of is already underway.
But the good news is that it could lead to a General Election
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-leadership-challenge-vote-b2159270.html?amp

Paperbackwriter Mon 05-Sept-22 12:35:39

I doubt that Johnson would even win his own seat at a General Election, let alone return as PM.

DeeDe Mon 05-Sept-22 12:38:21

Their all a waste of time, we need a good business man running
The country.. and why do they need bars in the House of Commons?? mmm

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 05-Sept-22 12:40:09

StoneofDestiny, he is not a convicted criminal. Receiving a fixed penalty notice for breach of covid regulations does not make you a convicted criminal any more than receiving a FPN for a parking or traffic offence does. If it were otherwise there would be a lot of convicted criminals here. I’m one of them.

GrauntyHelen Mon 05-Sept-22 12:43:32

Dear God No ! Roll on Scottish Independence

Philippa111 Mon 05-Sept-22 12:44:52

Whitewavemark2

The spin by Johnson was that he got the big stuff right, but of course he didn’t.

He was a total failure on every issue.

As for him returning at Christmas!

I think that the Tory party have done sufficient damage to the U.K. by trashing our reputation abroad and trashing our economy and democracy at home. It is time they’re tired gracefully and we can all breath a sigh of relief.

Remember that in the U.K. most people do not vote Tory.

I agree with you totally, on all three counts. Especially our reputation abroad. The world is laughing at the idiots and the mess they are making on this island! I now feel embarrassed to say I'm from the UK.

Our economy is down the tubes and an Indian friend told me that India is now doing better than the UK. Good for them, but what does it say about here? And democracy has gone and is slowly but surely being replaced by fascism.

I'm in Scotland. Here the tories are like a cancer that we can't get rid of... so far! We didn't vote for them! It doesn't matter who is leading their party, none of them is fit for purpose. But they will hang on because personal power is more important to them than the state of the country.

And like someone else earlier... if I really said what I think I'd get barred form the site!

jocork Mon 05-Sept-22 12:49:51

growstuff

So what happens to all the MPs who wrote letters of no confidence? They're all going to look like hypocritical idiots and nobody with any values could take any of them seriously.

No-one with any values can take any of them seriously anyway IMHO! The sooner we have a general election the better!

Grannynannywanny Mon 05-Sept-22 12:51:08

Truss has just given me a laugh out loud moment in the first few minutes of her new role. “Boris you are admired from Kyiv to Carlisle!

DC64 Mon 05-Sept-22 12:52:24

With all of the people in this country there must be one person somewhere who can lead us and help us get out of this sh*tshow.
USA the same! - one person !!!
Intelligent, honest, common sense and want to help the majority not just the few!
Obvs too much to ask !!!

HannahLoisLuke Mon 05-Sept-22 12:52:40

Wasn’t it the LibDems who said energy prices should be frozen, then copied by Starmer and finally the tories are considering it?

micmc47 Mon 05-Sept-22 12:53:44

Only in my worst nightmare... Zero integrity, serial liar, ego-maniac, and frankly, an absolute embarrassment on the world stage as our so-called leader. IMHO...

Grantanow Mon 05-Sept-22 13:02:26

I doubt Johnson will be back any time soon, if at all. There were only 654 spoiled ballots in the Tory election and if they were all write in votes for him that's very low. The result for Truss is decisive though Sunak made a very respectable showing, not far off Johnson's own previous percentage. Labour should attack Truss for having no mandate. She was elected by some 80,000 Tory party members, a mere 0.17% of the UK registered voting population.

JanSan Mon 05-Sept-22 13:10:08

Of course the rest of Europe were vaccinated but surely it was a time scale thing. Boris broke away from Europe to set up our own R & D for a vaccine and we started the vaccine programme a lot earlier no doubt saving lives. Keir wanted us to join the European effort. Its amazing how people easily forget about Covid and the furlough support given out The country would have been in a totally different position financially without a pandemic

greenlady102 Mon 05-Sept-22 13:11:07

mamaa

What an absolute mess.
Did anyone see the ‘Have I got news for you’, tribute show to Boris on bbc1 on Friday night .
It wasn't so much a tribute show more a ‘tear him to shreds’ opportunity!
Was funny though, can catch up on iplayer if interested and at the end of it they intimated they now had Liz Truss
in their sights! grin

Did you notice though that the show started with a comment that it was a tribute to Boris’ FIRST premiership?

Susieq62 Mon 05-Sept-22 13:12:11

Just heard her simpering, uninspiring, lacklustre acceptance speech ! Be afraid, ladies, be very afraid of what is to come ! I have never known this beloved country to get so despondent! I am 72 so have lived through many lean years and changes! This is dire!

Casdon Mon 05-Sept-22 13:13:10

JanSan

Of course the rest of Europe were vaccinated but surely it was a time scale thing. Boris broke away from Europe to set up our own R & D for a vaccine and we started the vaccine programme a lot earlier no doubt saving lives. Keir wanted us to join the European effort. Its amazing how people easily forget about Covid and the furlough support given out The country would have been in a totally different position financially without a pandemic

Vaccinated first, but one of the highest death tolls from Covid due to poor decision making. That’s nothing to be proud of.

Lolly67 Mon 05-Sept-22 13:14:31

Yep I agree she's not the brightest bulb in the box a Thatcher wannabee but don't forget she wasn't expected to last love her or loathe her she did turn this "sick man of Europe" around as we were known then but we have a problem tories have lost their way Labour couldn't find their way they talk a good job but it's different once your in suppose all we can do is hope she gets it right because if Labour get in Kier Starmer won't be there long they will oust him and it will be Angela Rayner Corbyn in a dress in power and her and the unions will have a field day

polly123 Mon 05-Sept-22 13:14:47

Hopefully she won't last too long. Hopefully Johnson will not get a second chance to make even more of a mess. Hopefully a general election?

Durga Mon 05-Sept-22 13:15:58

Barrymold - I’m in US and feel the same way. Where to go?

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 05-Sept-22 13:17:06

I agree Lolly.

hallgreenmiss Mon 05-Sept-22 13:23:41

If Johnson did come back he would believe that his terrible behaviour was justified and would be even more insufferable.

icanhandthemback Mon 05-Sept-22 13:23:42

daughterofbonniebelle

One of the many depressing aspects of this whole pantomime is that the new prime minister is not appointed democratically, but voted in by some smug Daily Mail readers, and the population accepts this whole sorry process as reasonable and normal.

He/she is appointed democratically. When you vote, you vote for YOUR MP, not the PM or the leader of the Party. The party with the most MP's (all fairly elected under the current rules) then puts its leader in the top role. You could equally argue that we don't vote for the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the Foreign Secretary, etc, etc.
If you want to vote for a Prime Minister, join the Party so you are entitled to vote. If you did, you could also legitimately campaign for a change in the rules of how the Tory Leader is chosen.

Gabrielle56 Mon 05-Sept-22 13:27:16

Germanshepherdsmum

I would rather have Johnson than Truss, from what I’ve seen of her so far.

There's always one-and you're it!??

Gabrielle56 Mon 05-Sept-22 13:29:50

When pm is ousted for scurrilous reasons(aka bent as a nine Bob note!) It should trigger a snap election, or dissolution of parliament as the party in power is deemed to have been headed up by a corrupt leader! They MOSTLY bolstered him up and defended his filthy ways so gen election needed more than ever!

Treetops05 Mon 05-Sept-22 13:40:52

Good grief I hope not! Just give us an election

RVK1CR Mon 05-Sept-22 13:41:27

Just voted in YouGov poll - screen shot of result