Boris Back by Christmas! ?

Another of those “Big Calls” - putting a border in the Irish Sea, when he said he would never do that. Those who believe the “big calls” soundbite, have definitely been gaslighted.

IF he could be persuaded to be less idiotic and less frivolous, and IF he showed he were more serious and that he had really learnt from his experiences, then yes a return might be possible, but I'm not holding my breath.

halfpint1 It was Boris's speed at getting the vaccination out and available that was his strong point. Don't you remember the EU being slated because they were very slow off the mark in introducing the vaccinations. I remember at the time being relieved at having left the EU as they were so slow.

We were prompt with our vaccination programme here because the vaccine had been ordered by the UK ahead of us fully leaving the EU! Any EU country could have done likewise. Johnson chose to make political capital from it.

My DH is registered for healthcare in France where he lives and his vaccinations occurred a few months after mine, despite us being of similar age.

Count me in on missing Boris.
That said if it’s Truss (likely it seems) I hope it’s not a close call but a stomping majority (a) to give her confidence and (b) to show the MP’s that they are (again) often at odds with the electorate.

I remember well the mess in the HoC and all this ‘indicative votes’ that were put forward when May was trying to get Brexit done - which all got swept aside by the tsunami of voters who wanted Boris.

Truss is going to Get Brexit Done now. Properly. She’s quite determined about it. She seems quite ruthless about it. Boris seemed to sit on the fence (since Ukraine), Sunak blocked a lot of her plans it’s come out - over trade, courts and the NIP. That alone will make her popular in the Red Wall.

For that alone I’m cheering her (and a more robust team and approach) on ... “Go Truss!”.

Just as we thought it was safe to go back in the water…..?

There is always one Mawthe Merrier, time to go I think

Barmeyoldbat

Yes GSM he could have done something, he resigned and wanted to stay on until September, what has he done in that time, had holidays, a leaving party, a wedding party, a royal tour of the UK to say goodbye and he is even having the cheek to go Scotland to hand in his resignation to the Queen in person, instead of doing it as other PMs have done, By letter. But then it’s another jolly for him. He left the whole country in limbo and a laughing stock. He is an absolute disgrace.

Just for information Barmeyoldbat the outgoing PM does not merely dash off a resignation letter to the Queen
From The Institute for Government
The incumbent prime minister informs Buckingham Palace that they will be resigning. There is then a well-rehearsed sequence of events in which the outgoing prime minister travels to see the Queen and formally tenders his or her resignation. They have a short audience with the Queen.
After the outgoing prime minister has left, the incoming prime minister arrives and is formally asked by the Queen to form a government. This audience is known as ‘kissing hands’. After their appointment, the new prime minister heads straight to 10 Downing Street

Maybe give her a go first? She might not be as bad as you think.

I think the Tories will consolidate behind Truss for the simple reason they need to get their act together before the next GE. Any more infighting then they diminish any chances they may have. Boris has been a big disappointment imo. He has delivered somethings but there’s a lot he hasn’t that he was voted in for. Plus I think there’s a certain lethargy amongst the electorate that it doesn’t really matter who they vote for, they are all the same.

She’s starting with such low expectations that anything could lead to her being seen more positively
My prediction is something like a windfall tax and energy bills frozen

I'm mildly startled that the best the Tories can seem to muster is Johnson or Truss. Surely they have some real talent in their party?

Johnson was hopeless, but Truss doesn't inspire much confidence. She seems to change her message, depending on who she's talking to.

I had to laugh this morning. When Starmer suggested a price freeze on energy, a couple of weeks ago, it was condemned by the Tories as hopeless/ stupid/reckless.

Now, apparently, Truss wants to do just that.?

Ah well, hopefully, a GE will come, sooner rather than later.

Joseanne

IF he could be persuaded to be less idiotic and less frivolous, and IF he showed he were more serious and that he had really learnt from his experiences, then yes a return might be possible, but I'm not holding my breath.

You mean if he were to completely cease to be Boris Johnson?

I just cannot get over the idea that anyone with more than half a brain cell thinks he should be anywhere near government.

My friend in England was vaccinated on march 30th , mine was April 25th and I missed appointments before because I was slow off the mark with the internet reservations. Is it any wonder I am mystified by the vaccine boasting.

I think that Starmer’s intervention was exactly judged. A couple of weeks before the new leader, so sufficient time to sink into the Tory noddles which appears to have been exactly what has happened. So their pressure will hopefully do exactly what Labour hoped to achieved and the price will be frozen.

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I listened to a guy making a comment on Facebook a couple of weeks ago. Just an ordinary guy who was saying that he wasn't worried about the price increase in fuel because whoever got in, Truss or Sunak, would freeze the increase. That way we could all be very grateful. Looking like he may have had a point.

Truss was a fairly ardent Remainer - now an enthusiastic Brexiter who has, apparently, seen the error of her ways.

There are some core values and principles involved in being either one or the other. That's what bothers me.

As Groucho said, "These are my principles, and if you don't like them..., well, I have others."

She's now declared her enthusiasm for "trickle-down" economic theory. An idea popular in the 1890s - the "horse and sparrow" principle. If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows. Eventually.

Then there are those "difficult" decisions she has said she'll be taking. I've seen on other social media sites a general roar of approval - because it seems people think these difficult decisions will only affect benefit "scroungers" and those who they believe have chosen benefits as a way of life. As a free-marketeer she will look at all areas of public spending - including the NHS I suspect. I'm reminded of that woman on Question Time (I think it was) who fully supported the then government's 'crackdown' on benefits - until it affected her... "I didn't think you meant me" she said.

Under her government I believe that the future is pretty bleak. Small businesses (often part of the hub of the local community) will go under (it's already happening), there will be quite a few boarded-up shop fronts on the high street. People will conserve energy by switching off their lights. Streets in small towns will become somewhat desolate places - especially at night. Villages are virtually already dead, bar the odd pub and coffee-shop-cum-store (often run by the local community). Crime will escalate - especially burglaries - as desperation takes hold, and opportunistic criminals seize their chances - there are simply not enough officers to deal with it.

I see our whole way of life changing, for the worse. And I am, by nature, an optimistic person - neither am I impoverished, so this is not all about me. A nation, more divided than it already is makes me uncomfortable. So, being an optimist, I'll sit back and wait for the markets to rebalance themselves - and Truss' economic 'growth' - which will rest to a great extent on those "lazy" (her words) British workers. Though my friendly delivery driver, working from around 6 in the morning until 8 in the evening most days, 6 days a week, in order to earn an income that meets his outgoings, might disagree with her opinion.

I just cannot get over the idea that anyone with more than half a brain cell thinks he should be anywhere near government.

Exactly MaizieD.

I always said when Boris was forced out by the media circus it was a big huge mistake and people would regret the decision.

One of the many depressing aspects of this whole pantomime is that the new prime minister is not appointed democratically, but voted in by some smug Daily Mail readers, and the population accepts this whole sorry process as reasonable and normal.

I'm in the minority 'Support Boris' brigade, but even if I wasn't surely not even his greatest opponents think that it is acceptable for him to be called the 'C' word on Have I Got News For You. I don't watch any longer as it seems (as with The News Quiz) that rudeness has replaced wit.

Personally I think it is tripe that he will be back any time soon. It might be what Boris wants but I think he is unlikely to get it failing a miracle.

Bloody hell- could people really forget the absolute shambles so quickly?

Starmer may be wet, but he’s not a raving psychotic liar.

What a load of rubbish. Newspapers make money by selling the paper. They sell papers by putting headlines like this on the front.

Johnson is a convicted criminal. He is a prolific liar and self publicist. He is a racist, a misogynist and a philanderer. Just what fits him for public office at any level. Just have of his statements would have had him sacked from much less prestigious jobs for bringing the profession into disrepute. He even insisted in staying in position after his sacking as 'the country needs me' and then promptly took 2 holidays!

Those who put him in power and want to keep him there, deserve the misgovernment we have got. The rest of us do not.
As for Truss - she is politically dense, undiplomatic and on record as saying she will ignore Scotlands Democratically elected leader...........while claiming to lead a 'unionist party'. Like Johnson, she refuses to be scrutinised by professional journalists - tells us all we need to know about her intellect.

NanKate

I must be the only person on GN who misses BJ ?

I don't think you are, NanKate. It's clear that there are many posters who agree with you and the "be careful what you wish for" scenario has proven to be true. As much as I miss Boris I do now think the best option is for a General Election so that we can vote in a Labour government for a few years to see how they will further mess up the country while the Conservatives reform and reunite in Opposition.