Boris Back by Christmas! ?

I heard an interesting article on Radio 4 Women’s Hour today’s about the glass cliff. It’s where a woman is put in charge when a company is failing to act as the ‘fall guy’. Once the crisis is over and things are ready to look up the woman gets the blame and removed to be replaced by a ‘competent’ man. Never heard of it before but perhaps the Tories have..

Dickens Interesting about trickle down theory. James Cleverly said this afternoon that the Tories didn't believe in that theory and it was not part of their program. (i'm paraphrasing a bit)

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NanKate

I must be the only person on GN who misses BJ ?

I don't think you are, NanKate. It's clear that there are many posters who agree with you and the "be careful what you wish for" scenario has proven to be true. As much as I miss Boris I do now think the best option is for a General Election so that we can vote in a Labour government for a few years to see how they will further mess up the country while the Conservatives reform and reunite in Opposition.

Labour will certainly not do any worse that the Tories in the last 12 years and are more likely to do a lot better.

JanSan

Of course the rest of Europe were vaccinated but surely it was a time scale thing. Boris broke away from Europe to set up our own R & D for a vaccine and we started the vaccine programme a lot earlier no doubt saving lives. Keir wanted us to join the European effort. Its amazing how people easily forget about Covid and the furlough support given out The country would have been in a totally different position financially without a pandemic

Funny how there were more deaths in England than there were in France for example.

My DH is registered for healthcare in France where he lives and his vaccinations occurred a few months after mine, despite us being of similar age.

Coincidentally, following my comment on this thread earlier today, DH (aged 73) just received a phone call offering him his fourth booster on the 16th September. I'm under the NHS and have heard nothing. I'm 72.

Prentice

I do not think we will have PR at any time soon.
the last General Election was overwhelming with Conservative votes, an 80 seat majority if I remember rightly.
it was different I know, as it involved Brexit and also the negative impact of Mr Corbyn on labour voters.
however it has to be said that they have won many elections now so there must be many supporting voters.
I have noticed that it is always 'misrule' used by people when the vote is not what they agree with after an election.
just an observation.

The Tories had a majority of seats but not a majority of the votes. So not an overwhelming win.

We are in a truly desperate situation in the UK if people think Boris Johnson is to be missed as a Prime Minister.

CatsCatsCats

halfpint1 It was Boris's speed at getting the vaccination out and available that was his strong point. Don't you remember the EU being slated because they were very slow off the mark in introducing the vaccinations. I remember at the time being relieved at having left the EU as they were so slow.

And another thing Boris was good at was his dealings with Ukraine. Again, much better and firmer than the EU.

Except that wasn't true regarding the vaccinations being faster because of leaving the EU.

www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/fact-or-fake/20210717-did-the-uk-get-the-covid-19-vaccine-faster-thanks-to-brexit

In terms of fully vaccinated citizens the UK came in only 5th in Europe. Slower than Malta, Italy, Portugal and Denmark.

And all that money spent of refurbishing and redecorating the flat above...... Wasted.

Normandygirl I note your source was the French media. Hmmm. I think that's exactly the kind of thing they would say, don't you?

Don't you remember the total paddy the EU threw when they couldn't get the vaccinations as quickly as they liked, once they had finally stopped dithering about them?

Germanshepherds Mum,

I could describe myself as a middle ground Conservative and have been a party mrmber for a long time. Rather like my favourite radio presenter Iain Dale. On some issues i sympathise with people who work hard, obey the law and look after their families but do not get a fair crack of the whip and often get low wages. I am a scouser and grew up in a council house and none of my family ever voted Conservative either in UK or Australia. I went to a grammar school
In 1945 and vslue my education. There are lots of tories like me. However, i
Just love a political argument and in my later life most of my friends were labour voters. I have a friend on the left in this group and we get on well! I like your posts generally. And you obviously like dogs and i am passionately involved in saving their lives so we do have things in common! l

Ilikeflowers

And all that money spent of refurbishing and redecorating the flat above...... Wasted.

At least it wasn't public money. Lord Brownlow seemed perfectly happy to have his money wasted. Did he get some nice lucrative contracts out of it?

I expect they've taken the dreadful furniture with them.

I'm just wondering how long it will take to extract Johnson from Chequers...

Breaking the law and getting paultry files when public got fined thousands is disgusting. He is a liar and a cheat. It speaks volumes that the tories still want him. I hope I never vote again in my life.

hallgreenmiss

If Johnson did come back he would believe that his terrible behaviour was justified and would be even more insufferable.

This ^!

Ilikeflowers

And all that money spent of refurbishing and redecorating the flat above...... Wasted.

I can't imagine it will be to Liz Truss's taste!

It is terrifying. Johnson surrounded himself with people who would never outshine him thus we have the most inept cabinet in history. So a lot of barrel scraping to come up with the the two finalists. The sad thing is that all they want (including Johnson) is to have the title of Prime Minister not interested in the good of the people of this country.

Peri or menopausal no thanks

I’m loving Gransnet! So many non Tories or at least less extreme Tories. Let’s hope we don’t go through too much pain before there’s a landslide for Labour!

I imagine any PM would surround themselves with people whom they didn't consider a threat - as with all leaders in all walks of life. However in Liz Truss's case ... but I must keep an open mind.

Suzey

Peri or menopausal no thanks

Can't stand the woman and do not trust her - but this is just not fair and so mysoginist!

Yes. That really is pathetic

In her case surely she needs to keep her friends close and her enemies closer?

That's unacceptable Suzey. Do you consider that all menopausable or peri-menopausable women are totally incapable? I certainly wasn't.

Priti Patel has just resigned and flounced off before she was sacked:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11182329/Priti-Patel-QUITS-Home-Secretary.html

Useless anyway, so no loss. ?

Ashcombe

^My DH is registered for healthcare in France where he lives and his vaccinations occurred a few months after mine, despite us being of similar age.^

Coincidentally, following my comment on this thread earlier today, DH (aged 73) just received a phone call offering him his fourth booster on the 16th September. I'm under the NHS and have heard nothing. I'm 72.

I turned down my 4th booster in August, I am 68