King Charles III

What was that you were saying about forgiveness Anniebach?

Cross post Sandy73

I can't believe that I knew so little about monarchy. precedents. councillors of state etc until now. Never even thought about it because the Queen was just sort of there and doing a grand job. if that makes sense.?
Every day is a school day.

In all seriousness Normandygirl, I think that's the case for many people.

We had a nice old lady who looked good in hats, and that's enough for most people. Once the population find out what a monarchy is really all about...well, let's wait and see, shall we?

I agree Volver I am guilty as charged!
I wonder though, how on earth a change could be brought about and how many years it would take. Not likely to happen in my lifetime.

My fingers are crossed!

ReadyMeals

I don't think Charles has a free hand in selecting counsellors of state. I understood that by default it's always the next 4 adults in line of succession unless parliament were to pass a motion to change it. That means William, Harry, Andrew and Beatrice. Oh and I think the monarch's spouse gets a look in too.

That is my understanding also

Normandygirl

I can't believe that I knew so little about monarchy. precedents. councillors of state etc until now. Never even thought about it because the Queen was just sort of there and doing a grand job. if that makes sense.?
Every day is a school day.

I'm thinking about all the panoply of councillors, heralds, traditional offices etc. which we've been seeing and people have been critquing (not just here), and wondering if they are doing any positive harm to the country?

Are they holding us back from some sort of prosperous egalitarian future or are they a harmless link with traditional practice (and before anyone pulls me up, I know that some of our rituals are not in the least bit ancient and traditional)

The monarchy may be the apex of our class system, but we've had plenty of opportunity to alter our 'system' through our votes for Parliament, which comprises our elected representatives. Is it lack of will, or cowardice, which has merely tinkered at the edges?

To suggest that 200,000 people turning out to pay their respects, means that a whole country monolithically "loves" a person most of them have never met doesn't even meet the criterion for puerile.

Ach away with you lass!

To imply that a mere 200,000 people turning out to show respect for the late Queen, out of a population of 5.4 million is an indication of lack of interest or, in probably your case, loathing is indeed puerile.

The population of England is 56 million and over 60% are for the Monarchy. Do you seriously think if over 34 million aren’t there waving flags it indicates the Queen wasn’t held in high regard?

The people of Scotland only had a small opportunity to show their respects and they did the Queen proud. You and your nationalist pals must be pretty downbeat about that.

Luckygirl3

Boy was he cross at the second "pen debacle"! And who can blame him? - surely the lackeys can get a proper pen that works and is to hand without risking everything falling on the floor.

Heads will roll!!!

I don't think it's anything to do with "lackey's". He must be exhausted.

Apparently some of them had come up from York and Londonm, which swelled the numbers. Just found that out on another thread.

Also, support for the monarchy is Scotland is now at less that 50%. See the survey posted by Casdon on this thread earlier today.

You and your Royalist pals must be pretty downbeat about that.

I don't think it's anything to do with "lackey's". He must be exhausted.

I think it has everything to do with the lackeys.

On such a momentous occasion there should be huge attention to detail and nothing left to chance. Therefore the table, pen holders, inkwells and the pens should have been checked and checked again.

It was a shambles!

Are we calling public servants lackeys now?

Is this what we have come to?

volver

^However,Volverchose to bring it into the discussion.^

I did not. Another poster did.

I did not mention ethnicity either, you did.

If you are going to insult people, try to get your facts right. Hard as that might be for you.

You were talking about ethnicity. I simply named what you were talking about.

Also, support for the monarchy is Scotland is now at less that 50%. See the survey posted by Casdon on this thread earlier today. A Scottish nationalist survey perchance?

You and your Royalist pals must be pretty downbeat about that. Au contraire we pay no heed to massaged statistics. The facts and live broadcasts give lie to those!

Cheer up, Nicola might manage to wangle another referendum. I wouldn’t hold out much hope for your cause if you had one now!
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A Scottish nationalist survey perchance? No.

Casdon - apparently your sources "massaged statistics".
That's YouGov all over.

Anniebach

Andrew was a counsellor of state when the Queen was alive .

You are right Annie. Also Counsellors of State are appointed from among the four adults next in succession (provided they have reached the age of 21).

That doesn't sound to me as if Charles had much choice and he has no actual reason not to choose Andrew who may have been found guilty by the press and some of those on here but has not been found guilty of anything in law.

volver

^A Scottish nationalist survey perchance^? No.

Casdon - apparently your sources "massaged statistics".
That's YouGov all over.

Where has YouGov "massaged statistics"? As you are quoting the phrase, where are you quoting it from?

Jings DaisyAnne, pay attention.

I'm quoting it from the post right above mine. Made by your wingman.

Thank you for the sweet and polite way you help people catch up when they have been out. How could we ever manage without you, Volver.

I have no idea. You'd just be stumbling about it the dark.

But at least you'd be spared the trouble of actually trying to follow conversations.

Volver

You’re becoming increasingly rude and unpleasant to some posters. Water off a duck’s back when you aim at me, as I’m sure you know but try and keep it civil to others that, quite possibly, aren’t as robust as me when dealing with you.

Seems like you’re getting rattled.

volver

I have no idea. You'd just be stumbling about it the dark.

But at least you'd be spared the trouble of actually trying to follow conversations.

my oh my!

I'm afraid tickingbird when posters accuse me of sounding like a terrorist and irrationally telling me I use ethnicity to characterise people unfairly, I don’t feel that I have to be nice to them. C’est la vie.

Lucca I do apologise, having just seen your comment, because I thought you either Scottish or living in Scotland, as you are neither I can see why you would not like this.
as I did say, I think I mixed you with another poster on this site.

The crowds were certainly out in force in Scotland to honour the late Queen as they knew that she enjoyed her times at Balmoral, and of course she was their Queen as Scotland is part of the United Kingdom, and long may it stay so.

I would like to say to Grany that I respect her/his Republican views although they differ from mine and that her/his comments are always polite to other GN posters and never ever unpleasant or rude.Grany is exactly the same on the subject of politics too, so well done Granyfrom me.