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Truss going on tour with Charles

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Zonne Sat 10-Sept-22 21:30:05

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/10/king-liz-truss-tour-uk-share-grief-late-queens-death/

Is this appropriate?

I think it makes him look political. I can see some of goodwill people seem to have for him leaching away as a consequence.

But I dislike both the monarchy and Truss, so recognise I’m a tad biased.

Luckygirl3 Sun 11-Sept-22 08:38:39

If he is actually going to do this, then he needs to take Starmer too. He needs to demonstrate political neutrality.

Truss will gain benefit from the goodwill and sympathy that people feel towards the bereaved king - it is utterly unacceptable.

Zoejory Sun 11-Sept-22 08:42:44

Why take Starmer? Surely it's just the PM.

Ginny42 Sun 11-Sept-22 08:46:23

I couldn't have expressed it better Luckygirl3.
I can also envisage a scenario in which many people who might want to wish the new king well setting out on his new life's journey, may also wish to demonstrate against Ms Truss and the effects the cost of living and energy prices are wreaking on their lives. There could be unpleasant consequences of this 'jolly'.

We have been without an effective PM for long enough now. Ms Truss should be at work with her colleagues in the Government, working hard to mitigate against the worst effects of the crisis we are in.

Daddima Sun 11-Sept-22 09:01:44

BlueBelle

The trouble with the Telegraph links are you can’t read them unless you pay for them
But from the headlines alone it seems very strange indeed

This works.

Joseanne Sun 11-Sept-22 09:02:34

I'm guessing this was all decided many moons ago, along with all the other meticulous planning. Its pointless saying it was Truss' idea. If it had been Cameron, May, Johnson or Corbyn at the time, the PM was going to be included whoever, whatever the timing. King Charles can hardly now say, "No, not that one thank you."

Ailidh Sun 11-Sept-22 09:06:59

I'm not old enough to remember when the Queen acceded to the throne, so I assumed that the visit to the four countries accompanied by the Prime Minister was just a ceremonial that was always done.

Joseanne Sun 11-Sept-22 09:10:02

I wasn't born when the Queen acceded the throne, but all my recollections in history books were of Churchill accompanying her pretty much everywhere at the time.

wildswan16 Sun 11-Sept-22 09:13:06

Of course this has been planned and decided over many years. The King and the Prime Minister have different roles. I don't see how it "politicises" anything. They both represent the people of the UK and should be present at the ceremonies and/or services which will be taking place in different locations.

Harris27 Sun 11-Sept-22 09:15:47

Well done Charles a new monarch and a new era he is our leader now let him lead and join with the government. Apparantley this is for the people so let him start the way he means to go on.

Normandygirl Sun 11-Sept-22 09:18:48

wildswan16

Of course this has been planned and decided over many years. The King and the Prime Minister have different roles. I don't see how it "politicises" anything. They both represent the people of the UK and should be present at the ceremonies and/or services which will be taking place in different locations.

As they are both unelected heads of state, neither of them
" represent" the people.

Anniebach Sun 11-Sept-22 09:19:03

I am amused at the thought of Truss meeting Mark Drayford,
she called him ‘ a low energy version of Jeremy Corbyn’

yogitree Sun 11-Sept-22 09:36:01

I'm with Grany.

henetha Sun 11-Sept-22 09:42:55

One thing is certain. Whatever our new Prime Minister does or does not do, she will be heavily criticised.

Luckygirl3 Sun 11-Sept-22 09:44:41

Harris27

Well done Charles a new monarch and a new era he is our leader now let him lead and join with the government. Apparantley this is for the people so let him start the way he means to go on.

I am presuming a note of irony here!

DaisyAnne Sun 11-Sept-22 09:47:14

Zonne

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/10/king-liz-truss-tour-uk-share-grief-late-queens-death/

Is this appropriate?

I think it makes him look political. I can see some of goodwill people seem to have for him leaching away as a consequence.

But I dislike both the monarchy and Truss, so recognise I’m a tad biased.

I'm not sure it makes him look political. I imagine he will be able to deal with that. The article says it is Liz Truss's choice. So, just when we think we have got rid of one, we get another "all about me" politician.

The main work of the Royals is to act as an ambassador for our country. Whilst they need to understand politics, the role is basically apolitical. I think Truss is out of order. Having said that she will learn by being with him.

(No doubt the Republicans would want us to vote for Ambassadors too.)

FarNorth Sun 11-Sept-22 09:48:12

MaizieD

Completely inappropriate.

She is politicising the King's tour.

I'm really surprised that he's allowed it.

If he didn't want it, it wouldn't be happening.
She can't just tag along.

DaisyAnne Sun 11-Sept-22 09:53:26

I don't know how you think the whole thing works FarNorth but if she has said she wants to go I don't see how he can stop her.

Hopefully, others will intervene.

Calendargirl Sun 11-Sept-22 09:53:32

I’m in the minority obviously as I thought nothing wrong with Liz Truss accompanying Charles, especially as they are both new to their respective jobs.

I naively assumed it was a good chance for them to get to know each other at a very momentous and sad time,

I would have felt the same if it had been Keir Starmer.

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Sept-22 09:54:12

Chestnut

biglouis Truss should be busy organizing the fuel crisis problem and not getting involved in a side show. Ok there are some ceremonial bits she had to be involved in but her job is to govern the country and not to junket around.

Absolutely spot on! There was a national crisis before all this happened and there still is, so she should not take her eye off the ball.

I don't think the King will be junketing around, it's not a jolly.

However, I agree that she needs to be getting to grips with her own job. We've been long enough in limbo without a PM visibly in charge.

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Sept-22 09:57:11

Anniebach

I am amused at the thought of Truss meeting Mark Drayford,
she called him ‘ a low energy version of Jeremy Corbyn’

Do you think he'll nod off while she's talking to him?
?

"Oh sorry! What was that you were saying? It can't have been that important."

DaisyAnne Sun 11-Sept-22 09:57:58

Calendargirl

I’m in the minority obviously as I thought nothing wrong with Liz Truss accompanying Charles, especially as they are both new to their respective jobs.

I naively assumed it was a good chance for them to get to know each other at a very momentous and sad time,

I would have felt the same if it had been Keir Starmer.

Whether it is Truss or Keir Starmer they would have a job to do and should be getting on with it. Obviously, she is unaware of the difficulties we have in this country. First, she aspires to be Margaret Thatcher now who does she think she can be? She has an important bit of self-knowledge missing.

Chestnut Sun 11-Sept-22 09:58:34

Ginny42 has said it well. There is a great deal of anger about the cost of living crisis and demonstrators will almost certainly appear if Truss is around. Do we really want the new King's tour sabotaged by angry people?

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 11-Sept-22 09:59:12

Whatever I think about Truss and the appropriateness, she is the head of His Majesty’s government Luckygirl, appointed by his mother, and the colour of the PM’s politics is irrelevant to the monarchy.

lixy Sun 11-Sept-22 10:00:51

karmalady

Fabulous, a great new beginning and bonding between political and monarchy. Really pleased they are doing this tour together

As above.

And it shows a certain 'thriftiness' regarding the security forces which is to be commended.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 11-Sept-22 10:00:55

I am with you on this one Calendargirl

What would happen and all the protocols in the event of the late Queens death would have been decided on many years ago, whoever was/is the Prime Minister of the day.

The Queen will lay in state in Westminster Hall according to tradition, the heart of the U.K. government, isn’t that a symbol of the relationship between Government and The Crown?