I don't know who's idea this was. I suspect it wasn't Truss's. If it was Charles's idea I suppose no one is wanting to say no to him right now. Equally if it was a political suggestion he could have vetoed it as no one would want to disagree at present. He's looking old and distressed. It's a massive overwhelming time for him. I'm sure he's being listened to.
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Truss going on tour with Charles
(218 Posts)www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/10/king-liz-truss-tour-uk-share-grief-late-queens-death/
Is this appropriate?
I think it makes him look political. I can see some of goodwill people seem to have for him leaching away as a consequence.
But I dislike both the monarchy and Truss, so recognise I’m a tad biased.
Off topic a bit.
But does anybody ever look at King Charles and think
Rheumatoid Arthritis?
A family member had hands exactly like his and it was RA? It's very debilitating and painful during a flare.
Either that or he has some other auto immune condition.
If he has chronic health conditions he might have to share a lot of duties with Prince Willian going forward.
It won't last long, this budding friendship, if there is one. Their views on the environment are too far apart.
I've wondered that, snowberry. I worry about his health too
at times. And he does have a very red face sometimes.
Callistemon21
Chestnut
biglouis Truss should be busy organizing the fuel crisis problem and not getting involved in a side show. Ok there are some ceremonial bits she had to be involved in but her job is to govern the country and not to junket around.
Absolutely spot on! There was a national crisis before all this happened and there still is, so she should not take her eye off the ball.I don't think the King will be junketing around, it's not a jolly.
However, I agree that she needs to be getting to grips with her own job. We've been long enough in limbo without a PM visibly in charge.
She shouldn't be traipsing around the country, she should be getting on with her job sorting all the things that are a problem at the moment.
Surely if Churchill went with the Queen it was because she was a very young woman, not really prepared for the role she was thrust into.
Charles has had many years to prepare and doesn't need Liz Truss to hold his hand. Oh, won't she enjoy the limelight while the country worries about the energy crisis etc?
I think Truss is out of order. Having said that she will learn by being with him.
Learn how to act like an aggressive child?
metro.co.uk/video/king-charles-frustrated-tiny-table-pens-proclamation-signing-2770175/?ito=vjs-link
What happened to maintaining dignity at all times, as the Queen did?
lixy
karmalady
Fabulous, a great new beginning and bonding between political and monarchy. Really pleased they are doing this tour together
As above.
And it shows a certain 'thriftiness' regarding the security forces which is to be commended.
There shouldn't be any 'blending and bonding' between the political and the monarchy. The monarch is apolitical.
Attending memorial services would be fine. In fact, one would expect the leaders of all the political parties to be doing this. Anything more than that is unnecessary.
Charles is a highly experienced 73 year old, very well accustomed to carrying out royal duties. He certainly doesn't need anyone going along with him to hold his hand. What is more, he should be the focus of the tour, the PM is completely irrelevant in this context.
I would say that I'd like to know more detail about this proposal; it's very sketchy at the moment.
Aveline
I don't know who's idea this was. I suspect it wasn't Truss's. If it was Charles's idea I suppose no one is wanting to say no to him right now. Equally if it was a political suggestion he could have vetoed it as no one would want to disagree at present. He's looking old and distressed. It's a massive overwhelming time for him. I'm sure he's being listened to.
The article, which is all this thread is based on, says it was Truss's decision.
Interesting that some think there will be anti-govt demonstrations. I think the opposite; I think respect for the Queen will prevent that, thus making it appear that Truss is more popular than she is.
I would, incidentally, feel the same if the PM who was doing this was of any party.
DaisyAnne Charles could have said no.
Wrong on so many levels.
FarNorth
^I think Truss is out of order. Having said that she will learn by being with him.^
Learn how to act like an aggressive child?
metro.co.uk/video/king-charles-frustrated-tiny-table-pens-proclamation-signing-2770175/?ito=vjs-link
What happened to maintaining dignity at all times, as the Queen did?
You are making it all about you and how it suits you to see it. It would be equally possible to think the man has had a very sad, trying time and is very tired. Or do you expect people to be superhuman? Do you have no compassion?
There really are some horrible people in the world and I don't mean King Charles.
FarNorth
^I think Truss is out of order. Having said that she will learn by being with him.^
Learn how to act like an aggressive child?
metro.co.uk/video/king-charles-frustrated-tiny-table-pens-proclamation-signing-2770175/?ito=vjs-link
What happened to maintaining dignity at all times, as the Queen did?
I think that a tiny incident is being grown out of all proportion here.
That table arrangement was very poorly thought out. Every single little detail should have been thought through and rehearsed, including the fact that it had to accommodate people signing from both sides of the table, to ensure the ceremony went without a hitch. Charles indicated that the inkwells and the tray of pens were in the way. What would you have liked him to do? Pick them up and pop them on the nearest windowsill? That would have really messed up the ceremony, wouldn't it?
Aveline
DaisyAnne Charles could have said no.
And you know that how?
MaizieD
FarNorth
I think Truss is out of order. Having said that she will learn by being with him.
Learn how to act like an aggressive child?
metro.co.uk/video/king-charles-frustrated-tiny-table-pens-proclamation-signing-2770175/?ito=vjs-link
What happened to maintaining dignity at all times, as the Queen did?I think that a tiny incident is being grown out of all proportion here.
That table arrangement was very poorly thought out. Every single little detail should have been thought through and rehearsed, including the fact that it had to accommodate people signing from both sides of the table, to ensure the ceremony went without a hitch. Charles indicated that the inkwells and the tray of pens were in the way. What would you have liked him to do? Pick them up and pop them on the nearest windowsill? That would have really messed up the ceremony, wouldn't it?
Well said Maizie. There are far too many people who get their jollies pulling other people down for no good reason or even because they make up their own truths.
Sometimes I despair about the innate nastiness on here.
Well said Maizie and DaisyAnne.
Ah I get it now DaisyAnne this is just another Tory bashing thread. If Starmer was PM would that be OK? They're just following protocol.
Aveline
Ah I get it now DaisyAnne this is just another Tory bashing thread. If Starmer was PM would that be OK? They're just following protocol.
Protocol, absolutely
Truss has to show that she can match Penny Mordaunt's way of speaking and her demeanour. Watching Mordaunt yesterday morning I couldn't stop thinking about the contrast between the two women.
Aveline
Ah I get it now DaisyAnne this is just another Tory bashing thread. If Starmer was PM would that be OK? They're just following protocol.
Can you read Aveline? There is software that will read for you, if not. This is part of my reply to your earlier comment.
Whether it is Truss or Keir Starmer they would have a job to do and should be getting on with it.
I get the feeling that people are coming on here who think, "we've talked about the Queen for long enough, we've talked about the new King for long enough and now we have to talk about me and what I think".
Having said that, that's what I think, and it's about how unhappy lies and nasty make believe makes me feel. So it's time for me to get off these threads and back to real life - where, in mind at least, people are generally kind and thoughtful.
DaisyAnne
MaizieD
FarNorth
I think Truss is out of order. Having said that she will learn by being with him.
Learn how to act like an aggressive child?
metro.co.uk/video/king-charles-frustrated-tiny-table-pens-proclamation-signing-2770175/?ito=vjs-link
What happened to maintaining dignity at all times, as the Queen did?I think that a tiny incident is being grown out of all proportion here.
That table arrangement was very poorly thought out. Every single little detail should have been thought through and rehearsed, including the fact that it had to accommodate people signing from both sides of the table, to ensure the ceremony went without a hitch. Charles indicated that the inkwells and the tray of pens were in the way. What would you have liked him to do? Pick them up and pop them on the nearest windowsill? That would have really messed up the ceremony, wouldn't it?Well said Maizie. There are far too many people who get their jollies pulling other people down for no good reason or even because they make up their own truths.
Sometimes I despair about the innate nastiness on here.
Yes
mind mine
GrannyGravy13
Aveline
Ah I get it now DaisyAnne this is just another Tory bashing thread. If Starmer was PM would that be OK? They're just following protocol.
Protocol, absolutely
And what protocol would that be?
I've never heard of a protocol that says the PM should accompany the monarch on royal tours.
If Charles has agreed to this then he drops way down in my estimation.
MaizieD this is not a royal tour
Truss started as she meant to go on. Apparently she could have flown by helicopter from the airport to Balmoral for her visit to the Queen. She chose to go by road. The former would have been quicker and cheaper but she chose the latter, which entailed a police escort and was more expensive. Why did she chose the latter?
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