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paddyann54 Wed 14-Sept-22 09:18:23

Next Monday we were due to attend the funeral of a friend of 43 years who died almost 3 weeks ago.
IT HAS BEEN CANCELLED
Because of the queens funeral .is this the ultimate act of entitlement ,HER funeral is more important than anyone els'es and they just have to get on a waiting list AGAIN to book a space .Family had all arranged time off work ,hotel was booked for the purvey ,childcare where needed arranged ,
This can not be right ,bad enough the North Korean approach of screens with The Queens photo,and sad music on all radio stations ,arresting people who have a diffeent viewpoint etc etc etc .
Now we have to wait who knows how long for a new space at the crem and I for one am bloody livid .
Surely our own dead deserve at least the same respect as someone we didn't know .?

GrannyGravy13 Wed 14-Sept-22 09:23:55

In the U.K., funerals are not all cancelled it is down to the discretion of the undertakers, church, crematorium.

HER do you mean the late Queen Elizabeth II, it is not her fault, more likely to be your local council.

volver Wed 14-Sept-22 09:24:09

In my life, a remembrance service for ex-servicemen who served during the war has been cancelled as has an appointment I had with the care service with respect to my father.

I'm sorry about your funeral arrangements paddyann54.

World's gone mad.

Fleurpepper Wed 14-Sept-22 09:28:32

Totally understand how you feel paddyann. It is just not right - and I am surprised at GrannyGravy's comment here!

Mandrake Wed 14-Sept-22 09:29:10

That is sad for you all paddyann. Your friend's funeral is just as important. flowers

Granny23 Wed 14-Sept-22 09:32:26

The same thing is happening here with Staff at Crematoria and grave yards told that they must observe the Bank Holiday. It is further complicated here as a popular, young member of staff, known to all in the funeral business, has died unexpectedly at one of the crematoria. Feelings are running high.

Fleurpepper Wed 14-Sept-22 09:34:05

Surely this will not just push back funerals to the next day but maybe for many days or even weeks, as funeral directors and crematoria are so so busy and stretched already. Have you been told?

GrannyGravy13 Wed 14-Sept-22 09:38:29

Fleurpepper

Totally understand how you feel paddyann. It is just not right - and I am surprised at GrannyGravy's comment here!

I think you may have misinterpreted my post Fleurpepper

The late Queen had no choice in when she died, as do any of us.

I have just checked with FullFact website and there is not a ban on funerals of others on 19th September, it is at the discretion of bereaved families along with funeral directors, churches and crematoriums.

I am sorry PaddyAnn54 that your friends funeral has been cancelled, but blaming the late Queen?

MissAdventure Wed 14-Sept-22 09:43:53

www.theargus.co.uk/news/21396814.funerals-across-country-cancelled-day-queens-funeral/

They aren't banned, but there is pressure being put on people to choose another date, apparently.

Luckygirl3 Wed 14-Sept-22 09:44:01

This is crazy - I am sorry the funeral has been cancelled - the family must be distraught.

Sad though it is, and momentous though it is in terms of history, life should not be made to stop for everyone, especially for those to whom it means little. In a sense we are all being told what to think and feel.

Yammy Wed 14-Sept-22 09:45:40

I understand how you feel paddtann54. I would be cross too. Three weeks is a long time to wait for a funeral for any family's closure to have it cancelled at such short notice must be awful.
It has just been announced on our local TV that Centre Parcs asked all people staying there to vacate for Monday. After a lot of complaints, they are allowed to stay in their room but there will be no attractions. Not half as upsetting as a cancelled funeral but just shows how things are being interpreted. It seems all hospital operations and appointments are being cancelled too.
This is turning into something the Queen would not have wanted.

Lathyrus Wed 14-Sept-22 09:46:20

Yes, I’d be very cross but at the Funeral Directors and any official body, council or Scottish government if the order comes from them..

Here life is going on pretty much as normal, so it’s obviously an area thing or the decision of your undertakers. There hasn’t been Westminster directive or Royal request so I think your anger is a bit misplaced.

MissAdventure Wed 14-Sept-22 09:49:15

I think it's to do with the day being declared a bank holiday.
Funerals don't take place on bank holidays, apparently.
Gps and supermarkets will be shut too, it says in the article I posted.

Keeper1 Wed 14-Sept-22 09:49:49

My husband’s hospital appointment is going ahead. I believe it is at the discretion of hospital trusts, funeral directors, shops and businesses. No a diktat from the palace.

Lathyrus Wed 14-Sept-22 09:57:06

Had a little Google.

The National Association of Funeral Directors says that no guidance or order has been issued to cancel funerals.

Not sure if they cover Scotland but looks as if it’s an individual decision by funeral directors themselves.

Blown up into a Press Headline?

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 14-Sept-22 10:03:23

It’s a bank holiday. Surely crematoria staff, undertakers and clergymen are just as entitled as other working people to take that day off if they wish. Of course it will be a major inconvenience for many, as will the cancelled medical appointments and operations. Blame the people involved in the cancellation of the funeral if you must, but to describe it as the ultimate act of entitlement is both very wrong and very disrespectful.

volver Wed 14-Sept-22 10:05:26

Blown up into a Press Headline?

Or a person's actual experience? Read the OP.

GSM - Bank Holidays don't work that way in Scotland.

If I hear the word "disrespectful" again I may scream.

Rosie51 Wed 14-Sept-22 10:08:09

If the crematorium is closed then funeral directors are simply unable to operate. In London it's not unusual to have a month's wait, so presumably that could be a further month's delay. Horrendous for those families affected. Not the Queen's fault but rather those sending out these directives. Funny how TV and radio broadcasting staff don't have a "right" to the Bank Holiday.

Fleurpepper Wed 14-Sept-22 10:08:25

Paddyanne is not blaming the late Queen at all - she is very upset that the 'system/State/officialdom, and their chosen undertaker, have decided that anyone else's funeral, grief and sorrow didn't seem to quite matter as much. And I totally agree with her. Funerals should NOT be cancelled, and possibly pushed back for days and weeks. This is so unfair.

Paddyann, I would ring around other undertakers and see if they would be prepared to take over and keep your slot at the Crematorium. Or ask the Crematorium how to proceed without a Funeral Director- and have a celebration of life at a later stage. Thinking of you, it's hard enough without all this!

GrannyGravy13 Wed 14-Sept-22 10:09:12

volver

^Blown up into a Press Headline?^

Or a person's actual experience? Read the OP.

GSM - Bank Holidays don't work that way in Scotland.

If I hear the word "disrespectful" again I may scream.

I am sure that we have all read the OP volver

But laying the blame on the late Queen Elizabeth II, and saying that is this the final act of entitlement was posted to get a reaction from all those with republican tendencies.

Respect is earned, and the late Queen well and truly earned it.

Fleurpepper Wed 14-Sept-22 10:09:31

And what about the cost of having to wait for days and weeks?

volver Wed 14-Sept-22 10:11:28

I am sure that we have all read the OP volver

I'm not.

Sorry, is that disrespectful?

Fleurpepper Wed 14-Sept-22 10:11:50

Respect is earned, and the late Queen well and truly earned it.- you say GrannyGravy. I have not heard of anyone saying anything else. I totally agree.

But surely you are not implying that Paddyann's friend has not earned her own respect. Surely not!

GrannyGravy13 Wed 14-Sept-22 10:12:11

Fleurpepper losing a loved one is devastating, having to then learn that the funeral is postponed adds to the upset.

However it is not the late Queens fault, it is those who are interpreting the guidelines.

PaddyAnn54 I do hope that alternative arrangements can be made either on the 19th, or a new date very soon.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 14-Sept-22 10:13:05

Fleurpepper

Respect is earned, and the late Queen well and truly earned it.- you say GrannyGravy. I have not heard of anyone saying anything else. I totally agree.

But surely you are not implying that Paddyann's friend has not earned her own respect. Surely not!

Not at all, I was responding to volver last line of her post of 10.05.26