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Eddie Izzard

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GrannyMack246 Sat 01-Oct-22 17:43:00

A witness account -
thecritic.co.uk/eddie-izzard-uses-the-ladies-loo-in-sheffield/

Galaxy Sun 02-Oct-22 07:54:29

I think it's often quite difficult for men to understand that to be honest. I watched an interview with him once where he announced that all toilets should be unisex. You could tell that he hadnt thought for one second about whether women would agree with him on that, whether they would be comfortable. It was utterly irrelevant to him. He has never had to think about it, a change of clothes isnt going to change that.

FannyCornforth Sun 02-Oct-22 08:00:42

He’s a complete and utter self centred, self regarding muppet.
He also looks utterly ridiculous in his micro skirts and his fake blooming boobs.
I’m going to have to hide this thread as he makes me so angry.
I met him years ago, before he was famous. I was with my friend and he seemed very scared of young, attractive women.

nanna8 Sun 02-Oct-22 09:37:21

I am not familiar with this man and by the sound of it I think I prefer it that way. What gives any male the right to use a female toilet? I still have a memory of a foul male coming into a toilet when my daughters were very young and left a toilet door open. That is the danger if men are allowed to just stroll in. There are plenty of filthy creeps around, unfortunately.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 02-Oct-22 09:55:57

Eddie Izzard is a man, a man who sometimes dresses as a woman.

Men however they are dressed have no rights to use Female Toilets.

Not rocket science is it …

Chestnut Sun 02-Oct-22 10:01:57

I think this problem would be solved if venues of all kinds had ONE toilet marked 'unisex' which is separate from male and female toilets. A notice below saying it is for transgender people just to be clear. Then everyone can get on with doing their business in a space they feel comfortable in.

Glorianny Sun 02-Oct-22 10:20:25

Whitewavemark2

I spent a day with Izzard at the hustings a few years ago. He seemed a pleasant enough person.

Can’t agree with him using female loos though. He needs to be more sensitive to the harm females have suffered as a result of men encroaching onto these spaces.

Perhaps we need lavatories that are non-binary?

I think that's a very balanced post. Thanks Whitewavemark2.
I think the great pity about the article in the OP is that it uses every possible slur to discredit Izzard. Simply saying "he's a nice person but I disagree with him on this" isn't apparently strong enough, a bit of character assassination is necessary as well. Such a pity women have to continue using the same tactics men always have..

Callistemon21 Sun 02-Oct-22 10:23:33

No Glorianny

You were trying to excuse what he did on the grounds that he has raised money for charity.

The two things are completely separate and you must know that.

I was very admiring of him when he ran the marathons.
I don't admire what he has just done.

FarNorth Sun 02-Oct-22 10:28:00

Chestnut

I think this problem would be solved if venues of all kinds had ONE toilet marked 'unisex' which is separate from male and female toilets. A notice below saying it is for transgender people just to be clear. Then everyone can get on with doing their business in a space they feel comfortable in.

That would be seen as drawing attention to trans people .
What's needed are separate, individual toilets, each with a handbasin.

Of course that would remove the communal space which is sometimes very useful in women's toilets.

henetha Sun 02-Oct-22 10:30:17

I have actually been in men's toilets a couple of times, - but accidentally,- being short sighted and a bit vague at times.
Eddie Izard is someone I always liked and respected, and she has done some amazing events for charity.
Nevertheless, she is still a man and should absolutely not enter ladies toilets. No way.

Glorianny Sun 02-Oct-22 10:34:03

Callistemon21

No Glorianny

You were trying to excuse what he did on the grounds that he has raised money for charity.

The two things are completely separate and you must know that.

I was very admiring of him when he ran the marathons.
I don't admire what he has just done.

I love it when others tell me what I intended.
(For the record it was just a little balance about the negative nature of the piece and included reference to his wealth which was earned, and his altruistic and humanitarian activities)

Galaxy Sun 02-Oct-22 10:35:06

I support the creation of unisex toilets absolutely. Male, female and unisex of course. Unisex would be for anyone who felt comfortable using them, men, women, etc. Single sexed toilets available for those who need them.

LadyGracie Sun 02-Oct-22 10:35:33

HE has always made me cringe.

henetha Sun 02-Oct-22 10:37:23

Yes, Galaxy, that makes perfect sense.

Glorianny Sun 02-Oct-22 10:38:22

Glorianny

Callistemon21

No Glorianny

You were trying to excuse what he did on the grounds that he has raised money for charity.

The two things are completely separate and you must know that.

I was very admiring of him when he ran the marathons.
I don't admire what he has just done.

I love it when others tell me what I intended.
(For the record it was just a little balance about the negative nature of the piece and included reference to his wealth which was earned, and his altruistic and humanitarian activities)

I don't actually need to "excuse" anything he/she did. I don't care which toilet he/she uses. So the idea that I am excusing anything is totally wrong. I'm simply saying object by all means, but if you need to assassinate a character, and link with paedophiles to do it, don't expect me to think that's OK.

Callistemon21 Sun 02-Oct-22 10:42:56

Don't fire your arrows at me.

I saw the logic of someone's post but you missed it.

Glorianny Sun 02-Oct-22 10:46:34

Callistemon21

Don't fire your arrows at me.

I saw the logic of someone's post but you missed it.

That's quite funny after you have just told me (wrongly) what I intended grin

VioletSky Sun 02-Oct-22 10:47:15

Good on that woman for photographing someone in a restroom, we should all be taking pictures of people in restrooms and publicising them online so we can discuss whether they have the right sort of genitals under their clothes or if they are a menace to society.

In fact, let's just live stream the whole thing. Cameras in toilet bowls will flush out the interlopers.

If that's too expensive, we can just take the cubicle doors off. That way we can all feel comfortable no one is hiding a sausage.

Glorianny Sun 02-Oct-22 10:51:01

VioletSky grin

Galaxy Sun 02-Oct-22 10:54:03

By the right sort of genitals do you mean the ones that commit 97 % of violent sexual assaults.

VioletSky Sun 02-Oct-22 10:55:23

I think you have got a bit turned around in your reply galaxy

Galaxy Sun 02-Oct-22 10:56:33

My guess is that everyone on here will know which genitals I meant VS. Should we do a straw poll?

VioletSky Sun 02-Oct-22 10:59:54

Interesting how these threads are ramping up.

We are now linking Eddie Izzard having a wee in a toilet she feels comfy in with pedophiles as if that is a completely rational argument.

If these are accepted gender critical arguments it surely won't be long until the rest of society shoves them in the same basket as flat earthers and they just become people we pat on the head and say "there there" too because ultimately they cannot do any harm.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 02-Oct-22 11:00:07

I really cannot get my head round why it is that some females think it is perfectly acceptable for men complete with the genitalia they were born with to access female only spaces, in particular toilets.

Can you not see that it is men yet again wishing to control/deny women?

Galaxy Sun 02-Oct-22 11:02:04

Yes right we are the flat earthersgrin

VioletSky Sun 02-Oct-22 11:02:38

GrannyGravy13

I really cannot get my head round why it is that some females think it is perfectly acceptable for men complete with the genitalia they were born with to access female only spaces, in particular toilets.

Can you not see that it is men yet again wishing to control/deny women?

Because that's not the truth

Ultimately trans people need a wee and sometimes a poo of they are desperate enough do so in a public restroom due to a dodgy curry or something.