Eddie Izzard

Crack on. I can’t help thinking it’s making you look rather odd, but if you really think it makes sense, perhaps it’s me.

you are throwing women under a bus Glorianny, we can't even bring vulnerable women into the discussion

we don't want to be silenced

That was to Glorianny btw

JaneJudge

Boundaries are important and blurring boundaries and guidelines will lead to abuse of females. It really isn't that difficult to understand

Eddie Izzard is manipulating circumstances and shouldn't be standing for an MP place if he finds boundaries difficult, of course he has the money though

I don't care for vanilla fwiw but I care for women

What "boundaries"? You've lost me.
The ones that say I have to join a queue of women when there is a man's toilet standing empty? You may if you wish. I'll nip into the gents.

Your argument is too simplistic

Really? Why can’t a celeb queue like everyone else? Or are they too privileged and entitled?

That’s to toilets being closed for celebrities.

The boundaries are set by the signs on the doors. Why bother if the designated sex of the users is optional?

Oh dear, Glorianny your reasoning powers really are failing you.
That isn't what I said and isn't the point I was making.
Others clearly understood what I meant so it's unfortunate that you are having trouble with it.

In hope you'll get it this time:
Some Men are Dangerous to Women.
We Can't Know Which Men are Dangerous.
So We have Single Sex Facilities including Toilets.
That means Males & Females should Use Separate Facilities

Australia seems to have it sorted. We should adopt the same here.

Some Men are Dangerous to Women.
We Can't Know Which Men are Dangerous.
So We have Single Sex Facilities including Toilets.
That means Males & Females should Use Separate Facilities

^^^

this is simplistic but these are why boundaries need to be in place

Glorianny I suspect you were the poster trisher who often regaled us with using the mens loos. Any thought given to the men at the urinals who may have preferred not to have a woman walk past them? Do you have no respect for anyone other than those of whom you approve?
this was part of my post which was the last on the previous page, so I'll assume you didn't see it Glorianny rather than ducking the question. Would you care to comment on if you have any concern about causing unnecessary discomfort to others? Or are you one of the most important persons in the universe, along with the likes of Eddie? Any woman who didn't want to share the Ladies with Eddie at that event, what do you suggest? Cross their legs extra hard or suffer the embarrassment of urinating down their leg?

FarNorth

Oh dear, Glorianny your reasoning powers really are failing you.
That isn't what I said and isn't the point I was making.
Others clearly understood what I meant so it's unfortunate that you are having trouble with it.

In hope you'll get it this time:
Some Men are Dangerous to Women.
We Can't Know Which Men are Dangerous.
So We have Single Sex Facilities including Toilets.
That means Males & Females should Use Separate Facilities

I understand perfectly, I just don't agree. Firstly I think any girl should be told no toilet is 100% safe but especially warned about ones in pubs clubs and on the streets. Go with a friend or a group.
Saying having single sex facilities provides any protection is simply not true. There are male predators and they will ignore the signs
I simply don't believe that Eddie or all people presenting as a different gender add to, or increase, the danger to women.
And if I want to use a male toilet when there is a long queue at the women's I will do so. So do loads of other women. Usually there are a few of us and we watch out for each other. If others prefer to queue that's their right.
So actually I ignore the signs as well.
My reasoning powers are perfectly OK they just use more street wise and accurate data than yours.

I don’t care how much bloody money EI has raised for charity , he should not go in womens toilets , neither should any other bloke that thinks it’s ok just because he feels he is a woman today, I am fed up with all this woke business and having to put up with people who try to force their views on us , just get on with what you are doing quietly, I do not want to go in a toilet and find a man in there too. End of

FarNorth

Oh dear, Glorianny your reasoning powers really are failing you.
That isn't what I said and isn't the point I was making.
Others clearly understood what I meant so it's unfortunate that you are having trouble with it.

In hope you'll get it this time:
Some Men are Dangerous to Women.
We Can't Know Which Men are Dangerous.
So We have Single Sex Facilities including Toilets.
That means Males & Females should Use Separate Facilities

FarNorth, I fear you can’t say it often enough or simply enough for those unwilling to accept it, whichever name they’re currently using.

Who are your friends protecting you from, as they watch out for you , Glorianny? And who is it (specifically) that girls should be warned against?

Saying having single sex facilities provides any protection is simply not true. There are male predators and they will ignore the signs and security/public could eject/restrain/or otherwise deal with transgressors, but when anyone can say they are anything then the lines are too blurred for intervention. And selfish privileged bastards like Eddie Izzard are leading the line. Just wait until the next 'male' role is offered to Eddie and his female identity will fade quicker than the morning mist. At which point his adoring fanbase will find yet another reason to validate him.

Doodledog

Who are your friends protecting you from, as they watch out for you , Glorianny? And who is it (specifically) that girls should be warned against?

Good post! That wouldn't be penis owners by any chance? You know people like Eddie who have no intention of having their penis chopped off or inverted into a neo-vagina. And Eddie can't claim waiting lists, lack of finance etc. No Eddie enjoys using his male penis for sex and has no intention of denying himself that pleasure, his identification as a 'woman' stops at the clothing and makeup. As for "he passes" because as he said " old women look like men" how insulting!

Doodledog

Who are your friends protecting you from, as they watch out for you , Glorianny? And who is it (specifically) that girls should be warned against?

They aren't protecting me they are watching in case any men need to use the loos.
I think I said male predators. I know they exist. I simply don't think they are deterred by signs, or that all those presenting as a different gender add to the danger. I think some toilets because of where they are are more dangerous than others. Sometimes the danger isn't even men. Toilets in pubs and clubs are great places for women to get at other women.But I suppose you think that doesn't happen.

Glorianny Toilets in pubs and clubs are great places for women to get at other women.But I suppose you think that doesn't happen .......goodness the news is absolutely full of reports of women abusing women, and as for the number of times women rape women, off the scale ......oh I forgot, you need a penis to rape. Eddie Izzard 'identifies' as a woman and he has a penis, so obviously 'women' can 'rape women'. I don't for one second think Eddie Izzard has ever raped a woman. In fact I'm sure he hasn't, but maybe, just maybe, some of his fellow 'woman identifiers' with intact penises have????

Glorianny any answer to my repeated post of 23.53? I understand if you are too embarrassed to say you don't give a tinker's cuss about anybody else's discomfort, not a caring, sharing thing to have to own.

Definitely a trisher type post!
Sometimes the danger isn't even men. Toilets in pubs and clubs are great places for women to get at other women.But I suppose you think that doesn't happen.

So just because women might attack women in pub or club toilets, you think it’s OK for males to use female facilities?
That would be either the males like Ready Eddie who get their kicks out of doing things like that without a thought for the feelings of females, or the males who intend harm or discomfort to females.
Are you sick or do you simply not care about females? I can’t get past the idea that, had they claimed to be women, you would have supported /defended Rolf Harris and Jimmy Savile.

Did Izzard expose his penis in this toilet? Or was he fully clothed while waiting to go into the cubicle and washing his hands?

Indeed womens boundaries and consent are unimportant if someone is fully clothed. By the way Glorianny I know many men who would be uncomfortable with a woman in a Male space. But who cares about the feelings of others when you want to prioritise your own needs.
If Eddie is in womens spaces then there is absolutely no reason why any man shouldnt be in there.

I spent a day with Izzard at the hustings a few years ago. He seemed a pleasant enough person.

Can’t agree with him using female loos though. He needs to be more sensitive to the harm females have suffered as a result of men encroaching onto these spaces.

Perhaps we need lavatories that are non-binary?