Liz Truss has told King Charles not to go to the COP27 meeting next month

Doodledog

A GE would be good, and even better if the new PM brought in laws to limit the powers of the government, and make clear the limits of their reach into the fabric of our democratic system.

I don't want to derail the thread, but it's a safe bet that we will have a new government soonish. How much of the damage the Tories have done to democracy can realistically be reversed when that happens? Have we become less democratic for all time, or can things be rolled back?

Oh, do derail it Doodledog. The comment in the title was denied in the middle of yesterday. It's old spiteful gossip not new spiteful gossip.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/01/king-charles-abandons-plans-to-attend-cop27-following-liz-trusss-advice

volver

That's so wrong. Where's my headbanging girl? It does not have to come from political figures. Where does Attenborough fit in this? Is he political?

The King doesn't need to give assurances about how the UK will spend money on this problem, but he should be there to help keep attention on something that is not political, but will cause us until issues across the globe in the future.

All that soft power that the RF are meant to have - this is an ideal opportunity to use it. But it doesn't suit Truss's vision of the future, so - stay at home Charlie.

Headbanging girl Volver who is this, your granddaughter perhaps?
I do realise that the King can still have and keep his own opinions, but perhaps politicians from other countries would seek to use him somehow?There must be good reasons for the advice not to go.Or could it be for security reasons, now that he is the King? Mr Attenborough can do and say far more I think from his position of private citizen but also well known and liked for his green credentials. Perhaps we will find out more about this matter, as everything is leaked now.

Can you imagine how it would have looked if the new and well-respected King of such an important country ( cough ) had done what he has always done and come to a huge international conference to champion the response to the biggest threat facing humanity? Because that's what it is. To ask people to step up and do their part? There are thousands of people at COP, they don't all go there to make commitments. They go for PR, which is something the King is a past master at.

so that is the head banging girl, this is good, I would like that to use sometimes.
Yes, I can imagine it would have been good PR indeed, he has been before when he was a Prince.I would like to know why the Palace thought it may be doubtful to go so asked advice and why the said advice was given, so that we need speculate no more.

I use her quite a lot Prentice

Given his years of environmental campaigning he must be pretty cheesed off.

Up the Revolution

Is she Camilla?
Telling Charles to ignore La Truss and do his duty to the world?

No ,he shouldn’t go. It would be seen as political whether or not it actually is. He needs to be very,very careful to preserve the monarchy and this would give many people mud to sling.

The Queen was due to attend the last one but couldn't go due to ill health. Her speech was recorded and played to the delegates.

Anybody complain then that she was being political?

Queen acted as head of state as the King will, when he attends.

Truss is unconscionably stupid.

He was advised not told. That is her job. He is King, he took advice. Very sensible.

The question you need to ask is, why did Truss not want the King to attend?

It's quite wonderful how a few posters know the intimate working of the security services in this country.

They are backing down on the 45p tax rate cut. Maybe they'll back down on this too.

As they say where I come from, "bunch of chancers."

Allsorts

It's quite wonderful how a few posters know the intimate working of the security services in this country.

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King Charles must not get embroiled in political controversy
part of the Truss plan is to reduce the environmental regulations in several ways. The Kings views are well known, his best course is to say nothing because this could get political very quickly.
Truss is a walking catastrophe, her own MPs will probably clip her wings she could not have done worse in her first month.

volver

I'm going to shout again, apologies in advance.

THE FUTURE OF THE WORLD AND THE ENVIRONMENT IS NOT POLITICAL.

EXACTLY!!

Quote from the Queen's speech at COP26. Seems like Truss and the King don't agree with that.

"I for one, hope that this conference will be one of those rare occasions where everyone will have the chance to rise above the politics of the moment, and achieve true statesmanship."

The UK along with the EU and others has led the environmental agenda, while the big manufacturers have largely ignored the issue, China, USA, S Korea even Germany have been burning coal while we phased it out.

All we have achieved is to export the pollution caused by our own consumption.

Our consumption in the UK has not reduced, we still want ever more cars, electrical goods, clothes and cheap trash, produced overseas with poor regulation. We feel good that the UK will become carbon neutral soon while ignoring pollution caused by our demand for cheap goods.

To start today here - could someone find the picture from the Wikipedia of the play about King Charles, posted about earlier, and upload it here? Great illustration.

Global warming is a PLANETARY issue and not the business of political party in the world theatre.

This one?

Yes, that one - thanks volver.

Could others on this world stage feel that the UK may be withdrawing its support at COP27...?

I will do the same as last year, and stick a noticeboard in the front garden with current info, pictures and comments!

I had hoped that Charles would not be a pushover (still think so) and that he would put Truss in her place - still hope so.

Actually, if it isn't too much of a digression, I'd like to comment that if I was the King, I would have had so much to deal with over the last few weeks that I wouldn't quite know which way was up!

Maybe shrewd Miss Truss caught him at a moment when he felt that going on a yet another trip, to Egypt, could be avoided? The pictures do look as if she's trying to sympathise? (I'm guessing here.)