Suella Braverman’s speech…

573,000.00 immigrants came to Britain in 2021 alone.
And 334,000 people left, leaving a net increase of quarter of a million.

A million visas were given out last year. If a million visas were given out and 573,000 people came, what happened to the other 427,000 people? Perhaps you can check your numbers.

How many people do you think, with our limited resources and land we can sustain? 100m, 150m. Even if we were to assume that net migration stays at the same level forever, which it won’t of course, it will take 130 years to reach 100 million. I going to hazard a guess that the world will have changed quite a bit by 2150 – maybe by as much as it has since 1890.

Also it means different cultures are coming in who are not necessarily wanting to assimilate to how we do things. I’ve just been for a curry. I won’t add anything to that, I’m sure you can work out what I mean.

I think a lot of you need to think what’s it’s going to be like for our grandchildren. That’s quite patronising, don’t you think? What will it be like? If we try not to accept any more immigration, we’ll be stuck in a sort of 1970s fever dream of good old Blighty, with Britannia ruling the waves, but we’ll actually be some kind of isolated and ignored version of North Korea that nobody wants to visit or live in, except those who find the wider world all a bit scary.

The Conservatives want to bring more people in, they are not going to cut down immigration, but they cut down on places for our children for university to fill the NHS jobs etc. I have no idea what that means. Any help?

573,000.00 immigrants came to Britain in 2021 alone. It’s nothing to with who they are. It’s numbers. A million visas were given out last year. How many people do you think, with our limited resources and land we can sustain? 100m, 150m. Also it means different cultures are coming in who are not necessarily wanting to assimilate to how we do things. I think a lot of you need to think what’s it’s going to be like for our grandchildren. Surely with the people we have with the right education we can sort ourselves out. We are bringing in Ukrainians. A lot will not go back. Hong Kong citizens and afghans. You would think , reading this we don’t have anyone coming to this country. The Conservatives want to bring more people in , they are not going to cut down immigration.but they cut down on places for our children for university to fill the NHS jobs etc.

'Security services fear the rising number of Albanians crossing the channel could be helping to bolster criminal gangs'. The Times -26th August 2022. The criminality of the trafficking gangs speaks for itself.

So Jaberwok who do you suggest have criminal intentions in the UK - the people smugglers or the immigrants themselves? Your post doesn’t make it clear which.

A good proportion of the people arriving from over the channel are said to be Albanian. Albania is a country hoping to join the EU and cannot be said to in conflict. Advertised on Tik tok , cut price offers, by it would appear Albanian smugglers with a view to criminality in this country. Surely no one on here can condone these blatant acts of lawlessness. The French to be fair are doing their best to police an ever expanding coast line, and great efforts are being made on both sides of the channel to break up these gangs. However ,there is allegedly more money to be made by people smuggling than drug running, so unfortunately these gangs won't be broken up any time soon.

A dear friend of mine fosters young asylum seekers. The latest young woman (16) watched her parents shot in front of her.

I am glad that she was not sent to Rwanda.

Surely we cannot be a civilised nation if we have no compassion.

HousePlantQueen ??? You speak for me - brilliant post.

Curtaintwitcher that’s a disgraceful post as is yours jennifereccles
I can’t bear to argue any more with such racist inhuman views
A lot of these immigrants so despised by these ‘english racist’ are doctors nurses care workers who could end up working for the NHS desperately needed

This resonates with Enoch Powel and his rivers of blood we have moved no where we have not evolved in any way what so ever, hideous, hideous inhuman people

HousePlantQueen

Frankly, her speech was chilling and wouldn't have been out of place in the 1930s. I despise people like her who pull up the ladder which got them and their parents where they are, I am deeply insulted, as a citizen, that after giving her parents economic sanctuary, she is deciding that I will not longer be permitted to do this for anyone else. I hate even more people like Braverman, Patel, Zadawi who stand there confident that because they are members of the BAME community (hollow laugh) they feel able to say what they like without fear of being accused of racism. These vile, cruel people do not represent me or my family, and the sooner they are voted out of office the better. I am so angry I can barely speak about this, and deeply ashamed of my country for allowing these words to be spoken by an elected representative

Well said.

Frankly, her speech was chilling and wouldn't have been out of place in the 1930s. I despise people like her who pull up the ladder which got them and their parents where they are, I am deeply insulted, as a citizen, that after giving her parents economic sanctuary, she is deciding that I will not longer be permitted to do this for anyone else. I hate even more people like Braverman, Patel, Zadawi who stand there confident that because they are members of the BAME community (hollow laugh) they feel able to say what they like without fear of being accused of racism. These vile, cruel people do not represent me or my family, and the sooner they are voted out of office the better. I am so angry I can barely speak about this, and deeply ashamed of my country for allowing these words to be spoken by an elected representative

Apricotdessert

Curtaintwitcher

That sounds more like the Conservative party I voted for! She said all the right things and if she were only able to put it all into practise, this country might get back to being Great Britain again.
However, I don't doubt that she'll be blocked at every turn by those who are determined to destroy this country.

The people destroying this country are the corrupt Tories and their cronies and the right wing media who let them get away with it for their own gains. The Tories pretend to be patriots with their flag waving whilst raking it in for their doners or giving them peerages, whilst value for money for the tax payer is of secondary concern. Ordinary hard working people's quality of life has suffered in the past 12 years and since Brexit our rights have started to suffer too.

well done Apricotdessert, you posted a truthful, reasonable and polite reply. I was unable to think of anything polite, or nondefamatory to use in my reply to curtaintwitcher and decided that s/he is not worth getting banned for.

My family nearly all ‘Job’ , if you think she’s bad for people who need asylum, wait til you see her plans for law and order! ?

Chocolatelovinggran what a successful family you have. You must be so proud of them all and happy to see how they are contributing to society.

With James O'B on this, Whitewavemark2 : something about getting safely across the bridge then smashing it to stop others coming over.

Just as terrifying is the self-belief that it is her task and right to take control of the judicial system to curb the protection of the Human Rights Act and judicial reviews of dodgy cases.

As I have stated before, I am the granddaughter of a dirt-poor ill-educated Italian immigrant. This woman's great grandchildren are all graduates, all working and paying taxes. One of them is in the middle of her PhD. Plenty more of these stories in our collective GN backgrounds, I'm sure.

Braverman is another scraping from the bottom of the barrel. The Tories need a good few years out of power for rest and relaxation and renewal.

Why are they so adamant that others should be denied this

Because it's easier to blame immigrants than it is to address their 12 years of failure to provide infrastructure, society and the welfare state?

Because it's what some of their supporters clamour to hear.

Because it's what their sponsors and the right wing media want them to say.

Just listened to Zahawi in his speech, talking about how wonderful the UK was for giving his parents safety when fleeing from Iraq. He likes to refer to himself as the ‘boy from Baghdad’. I’m really happy that the likes of him, Braverman and Patel achieved a lot in their lives because the UK welcomed their parents with open arms. Why are they so adamant that others should be denied this

Now mentioning Ann Marie Trevellion in transport getting Britain moving again. Years ago ( 10 +?) standing with Cameron on the A1 north of Newcastle promising to turn it into a much needed dual carriageway. Still waiting for that! They honestly think that we don’t have memories.

Oh my god, I just can't anymore...
Seriously, how can anyone agree with what she said??

I’m just thinking out loud here and haven’t thought it through so please challenge what I’m thinking and saying it, but it makes me think of the caste system in India and some of these MP’s put migrants etc into categories and regard themselves as superior and others as being the unspeakable.

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Braverman's dream

Children of immigrants who despise other immigrants probably shouldn’t be in charge of immigration policy. They often seem to be dealing with personal issues that shouldn’t be anywhere near the political space. People who protected & defended their parents might do a better job.

??? I just don’t understand why some people don’t get this!

James O’Brian contrasted two people’s dreams.

Market Luther King

Braverman

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What has happened to us?

Meanwhile, housing these mostly young male immigrants is costing us an eye watering five million pounds a day.

If these young people (for they ARE humans) were afforded the same privileges that Braverman’s parents were given, they would be able to work and, thus, contribute positively to society. This would wipe out the hotel costs. I’m sure they don’t want to be stuck in hotels. They’ve come to the UK for safety and a better life - JUST LIKE BRAVERMAN’S PARENTS.