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Camilla to be crowned.

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Esspee Wed 12-Oct-22 08:03:12

I was prepared to ignore the coronation, but for Charles to insist that his now wife be crowned is beyond the pale in my opinion.
I realise there are a huge number of royalists on Gransnet but do any of you agree with me that she should not be crowned?

Nelli123 Fri 14-Oct-22 16:43:39

volver

Nelli123

Charles and Camilla got married in the register office on condition she will never become Queen. It was clearly stated. They would not have been allowed to marry if the plan had been for her to be queen along with Charles becoming king. These are the facts, whether or not you like her to be Queen.

What? What are you talking about?

Stated where?

"When Charles and Camilla's engagement was first announced, it was also announced that Camilla will not be called queen if Charles becomes king." news.gallup.com/poll/16363/charles-camilla-royal-controversy.aspx

Lucca Fri 14-Oct-22 16:44:50

Prince William clearly adores her

Really ? Evidence ? Personal acquaintance?

I’m sure he probably likes her but “adores” her ?

MissAdventure Fri 14-Oct-22 16:57:22

Adores???

Lucca Fri 14-Oct-22 17:00:50

MissAdventure

Adores???

I know ! Sounds a bit Strictly gushy

Lucca Fri 14-Oct-22 17:01:57

Quote OliverZach Fri 14-Oct-22 15:42:51

volver Fri 14-Oct-22 17:03:38

Nelli123

volver

Nelli123

Charles and Camilla got married in the register office on condition she will never become Queen. It was clearly stated. They would not have been allowed to marry if the plan had been for her to be queen along with Charles becoming king. These are the facts, whether or not you like her to be Queen.

What? What are you talking about?

Stated where?

"When Charles and Camilla's engagement was first announced, it was also announced that Camilla will not be called queen if Charles becomes king." news.gallup.com/poll/16363/charles-camilla-royal-controversy.aspx

But Nelli123 it doesn't say anything about them being married in a registry office on condition that she doesn't become queen. In fact it says: But just because she won't be called queen doesn't mean she won't become queen. British law as it currently stands calls for the king's wife to be queen, so if Camilla is to be prevented from becoming queen, parliament will need to change the law.

Seventeen years ago they thought people wouldn't accept her being called Queen. Now we (mostly) don't care what she's called.

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.

Nelli123 Fri 14-Oct-22 17:20:08

volver

Nelli123

volver

Nelli123

Charles and Camilla got married in the register office on condition she will never become Queen. It was clearly stated. They would not have been allowed to marry if the plan had been for her to be queen along with Charles becoming king. These are the facts, whether or not you like her to be Queen.

What? What are you talking about?

Stated where?

"When Charles and Camilla's engagement was first announced, it was also announced that Camilla will not be called queen if Charles becomes king." news.gallup.com/poll/16363/charles-camilla-royal-controversy.aspx

But Nelli123 it doesn't say anything about them being married in a registry office on condition that she doesn't become queen. In fact it says: But just because she won't be called queen doesn't mean she won't become queen. British law as it currently stands calls for the king's wife to be queen, so if Camilla is to be prevented from becoming queen, parliament will need to change the law.

Seventeen years ago they thought people wouldn't accept her being called Queen. Now we (mostly) don't care what she's called.

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.

Volver, getting married in a register office is not the point here. That happened because they were both divorced and then had a church blessing afterwards. My point is that the understanding at the time was that Camilla will not be called queen when Charles becomes king. That was to appease people who were against the idea of having a Queen Camilla one day.

volver Fri 14-Oct-22 17:25:08

Aye, whatever.

It's not worth the effort.

lemsip Fri 14-Oct-22 17:25:42

www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/mar/22/politics.monarchyin 2005" But I think she is not going to be referred to as queen. She will be referred to as princess consort. I think you are right in thinking it would require legislation for her not to be queen."

The issue is significant because part of the careful choreography surrounding the quest for public acceptance of Mrs Parker Bowles's position has been a constant denial that she would ever be Queen Camilla, though it is thought that that was Charles's ambition for her.

volver Fri 14-Oct-22 17:32:34

Today, most of us are concerned that we have a party in government who couldn't run a p***up in a brewery, but for some the burning question of the day is the following:

Do we use the title Queen to refer to the woman who is actually Queen.

Yammy Fri 14-Oct-22 17:42:41

volver

Today, most of us are concerned that we have a party in government who couldn't run a p***up in a brewery, but for some the burning question of the day is the following:

Do we use the title Queen to refer to the woman who is actually Queen.

You've hit it in one Volver, thank you.
Who gives monkeys that Camilla will be crowned we all know what happened the facts are there if we want to see them.
A far more important issue is that we still have an incompetent running the country and Jeremy Hunt who bug... up the NHS called in to help. You have to question his motives.
What a load of clowns we must look to Russia and China.

Nelli123 Fri 14-Oct-22 17:44:48

lemsip

www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/mar/22/politics.monarchyin 2005" But I think she is not going to be referred to as queen. She will be referred to as princess consort. I think you are right in thinking it would require legislation for her not to be queen."

The issue is significant because part of the careful choreography surrounding the quest for public acceptance of Mrs Parker Bowles's position has been a constant denial that she would ever be Queen Camilla, though it is thought that that was Charles's ambition for her.

Exactly!

Daftbag1 Fri 14-Oct-22 17:45:47

How very sad.

Many years ago in the last century a prince married a beautiful young girl. This prince and princess had two little boys together, but found marriage to each other very difficult, and despite trying together, the marriage became very painful for them both.

Sadly, both the princess and prince sought comfort and love elsewhere. Whilst the princess enjoyed physical and platonic relationships with several men who fulfilled needs that the prince couldn't meet. The prince in turn rekindled a love affair from his past.

In time the prince and princess were divorced though they jointly cared for their sons.

Tragically the princess died in an accident.

Meanwhile the prince continued his relationship with his mistress going on to marry her in time. This marriage has been extremely successful.

In due course the prince became king, and his wife his consort, both are due to complete the accession of crowning next year, this is the way of our land.

Jaberwok Fri 14-Oct-22 18:00:18

No, you're wrong Nellie123. It said that Camilla, although she would LEGALLY be Queen, might not actually be CALLED Queen.To prevent her actually becoming Queen would need an act of Parliament which clearly hasn't happened therefore she will be Queen! The majority of public opinion,17 years later has changed including that of the late Queen so No need for an act of Parliament or a public vote. She was legally the Princess of Wales but wisely chose not to adopt that title. Charles was divorced at the time of Diana's death,so was NOT legally a widower at this time or the time of his second marriage. Surely to god this is clear!

jeapurs54 Fri 14-Oct-22 18:28:48

I do not feel she should be crowned, I feel that she married into Royalty but although she will support King Charles she does not automatically become royalty.

dizzygran Fri 14-Oct-22 18:33:31

Camilla will be queen consort. Can't see the need for her to be crowned. Bit of a waste. Too much else to worry about. She is being flaunted in our faces... Guess it's a reward for being a mistress!!

grannygrunt Fri 14-Oct-22 18:35:43

I agree with Volver the world has got other things to worry about! She should not be crowned!

Saetana Fri 14-Oct-22 18:38:47

Wives of kings are crowned Queen Consort. Husbands of queens are not crowned. Its as simple as that.

Lemontart Fri 14-Oct-22 18:42:17

Humbertbear

It isn’t down to Charles. The late Queen said Camilla should be known as The Queen Consort which is the title given to The Queen Mother and she was crowned. Let’s forget all the Diana malarkey and honour a woman who works hard and has supported the Royal Family. Like any other children whose parent was divorced and widowed , I am sure that William and Harry are simply pleased that their father has found some happiness.

I agree!

Kryptonite Fri 14-Oct-22 18:53:23

Camilla has never been off the scene. She was around before, during and after Charles's marriage, the 'third person' in the marriage. Even spent the night with Charles before his wedding to Diana, apparently. Many people find that hard to forgive. Is this why the coronation will be slimmed down? I don't think we'll see the crowds turning out as in the past, but then people are fickle.

Grannie06 Fri 14-Oct-22 18:56:04

Yes I whole heartedly agree. She should not be crowned. I would not be surprised if she is a big part of why Harry left the country as well.

Anniebach Fri 14-Oct-22 19:02:56

They have been married 17 years, Harry left 2 years ago

Jaberwok Fri 14-Oct-22 19:03:23

Oh dear, I give up! More heresay . It's high!y unlikely that Charles spent the night before his wedding at the home of Camilla. ,But it makes an ooh aaah story and I'm sure Netflix will report this event,so it must be true! People find it hard to forgive? It's over 40 years ago, lots of people weren't even born then or were very young children and simply don't care!

GrannyGravy13 Fri 14-Oct-22 19:09:29

Is there anyway that the Queen Consort can be side stepped to takeover as PM?

She would be 100% more effective than the present one.

Jaberwok Fri 14-Oct-22 19:19:21

Wow, that's an idea GG13. together with Princess Anne and maybe Sophie Wessex. A dream team?!!