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Boris Johnson - a warning from history

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MawtheMerrier Fri 21-Oct-22 09:01:43

I was derided just a little when I suggested that there had been a “cunning plan” aka conspiracy to elect the worst possible Tory leader (known as Truss) to be such a disaster that Johnson would look good by comparison and the party faithful would beg him to come back.
Even in these hallowed halls of Gransnet I have seen, but will not name and shame, some who inclined towards this view and lo! it is come to pass that BJ is indeed trying to get 100 MPs to back his candidature.
I have never been more depressed. The inevitable consequence of the last 6 weeks should be a GE but slippery BJ has wriggled out of situations before.
This is not the jolly buffoon with the rumpled hair that Nadine Dorries clearly wishes to ruffle further, the bumbling giant with his shirt needing tucking in.
Don’t be fooled.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 22-Oct-22 09:27:37

Whitewavemark2

Children are not accepted in first class.

Sorry you are totally incorrect on this.

Children are allowed in First Class on the majority if airlines including BA.

They even havd a useful guide as to what seats are adaptable for child seats and cots.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 22-Oct-22 09:28:57

Whitewavemark2

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

Children are not accepted in first class.

That BA route (Dom Rep to Heathrow) doesn’t have a First Class section, it does however have a Business Class with flat beds.

Children are definitely accepted and welcomed in that section.

I’ll remember that and avoid business class next time I fly BA to DR.

Ha Ha see you in First, sorry we will probably have a GC with us, bring earplugs

Wyllow3 Sat 22-Oct-22 09:30:20

LizzieDrip

*Maw*, I too posted on GN my belief that this whole dreadful fiasco has been manipulated, and that Johnson would return like a knight on a white charger to ‘save the country’. I too have read and heard people calling ‘bring Boris back’ and have found it difficult to comprehend their thinking. Like gas-lighted victims of psychological abuse, it’s as if they are somehow drawn back to their abuser. Moths to a flame. On reading that there is even the slightest possibility of Johnson returning, I too have never felt so depressed about our country. I echo what you say Maw, do not be fooled by this evil man - please!

Hear hear.

Casdon Sat 22-Oct-22 09:30:32

According to Sky News:
‘Business and premium were not full, and he'd have known he'd be snapped. Fellow economy passengers were positioning themselves for selfies.’

GrannyGravy13 Sat 22-Oct-22 09:33:00

Casdon

According to Sky News:
‘Business and premium were not full, and he'd have known he'd be snapped. Fellow economy passengers were positioning themselves for selfies.’

All part of his man of the people act

Some will be taken in by it, I will not.

Joseanne Sat 22-Oct-22 09:51:20

It is going to be bad enough with Sunak who is loathed by a large amount of Tory MPs.
I think that is the overall problem. None of them actually like each other.

MawtheMerrier Sat 22-Oct-22 09:54:59

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

Children are not accepted in first class.

That BA route (Dom Rep to Heathrow) doesn’t have a First Class section, it does however have a Business Class with flat beds.

Children are definitely accepted and welcomed in that section.

Slightly at a tangent, did you hear that Kwasi Kwarteng flew back from the U.S. first class?
Apparently they didn't want him near Business or (the) Economy"
gringrin

Fleurpepper Sat 22-Oct-22 10:01:46

Boom boom!

Joseanne Sat 22-Oct-22 10:02:16

Fellow economy passengers were positioning themselves for selfies.
I think this kind of suggests that Boris does have charisma, or some sort of quality that appeals. Not sure why.

Fleurpepper Sat 22-Oct-22 10:05:26

Ladyleftfieldlover

Seriously, if I was a lot younger I would leave this country and start again elsewhere. It would be easy if Brexit hadn’t happened, but…

Seems quite a few here, and most of our friends, saying the same.

So, linking to another thread- can you imagine making the decision to return, and then confronted with this! No? Me neither!

silverlining48 Sat 22-Oct-22 10:14:26

For those who are unhappy about the potential return of Boris Trumpty why not email your MP.
They are receiving a lot of mail on the subject and will let them know not everyone sees this possible return as a good thing. Au contrair mon ami!
Very easy to find email addresses online.

Nandalot Sat 22-Oct-22 10:58:53

Our MP wrote to my husband after partygate that Johnson was a ‘disgrace’. She is now publicly supporting Johnson. Has she no scruples?

MaizieD Sat 22-Oct-22 11:01:52

silverlining48

For those who are unhappy about the potential return of Boris Trumpty why not email your MP.
They are receiving a lot of mail on the subject and will let them know not everyone sees this possible return as a good thing. Au contrair mon ami!
Very easy to find email addresses online.

I was almost pleased to see that my Red Wall horrid tory MP listed as supporting Sunak. grin

silverlining48 Sat 22-Oct-22 11:17:07

This is all so Trumpian, because the orange one is also looking to return too. God or whoever, please help us.
Let us not forget that Hasta la vista was Boris’ final farewell.

As for children in first class put them all in there, so we battery chickens get a bit of peace even if the seats are super uncomfortable ?

Namsnanny Sat 22-Oct-22 11:22:52

Nandalot

Our MP wrote to my husband after partygate that Johnson was a ‘disgrace’. She is now publicly supporting Johnson. Has she no scruples?

I'm sure this is why they say politics is a dirty game.
To be expected unfortunately.

icanhandthemback Sat 22-Oct-22 11:26:12

silverlining48

For those who are unhappy about the potential return of Boris Trumpty why not email your MP.
They are receiving a lot of mail on the subject and will let them know not everyone sees this possible return as a good thing. Au contrair mon ami!
Very easy to find email addresses online.

You might as well whistle at the moon as expect Alan Mak to take notice of anything that departs from the party line. He's great at turning up for a photo opportunity but a complete waste of space for anything else.

silverlining48 Sat 22-Oct-22 11:32:30

I do agree it’s probably not much help. but still think it’s worth letting them know.

marmajam Sat 22-Oct-22 12:00:41

This is what the media is reporting. Don't forget the media is very right wing. What's in it for them? To line up with the rich for money money money. Remember the election? The right wing press won that and defeated Jeremy Corbyn.

annsixty Sat 22-Oct-22 12:22:49

I have come very late to this thread but I cannot believe that any sane person would want BJ back in charge of anything.
I am so incensed by the thought that I am almost incoherent.
I imagine he and his very superior looking wife are already planning Christmas at Chequers with all their family and wealthy hangers on enjoying a mammoth and expensive time at our expense.

JaneJudge Sat 22-Oct-22 12:23:40

I notice the daily mail have coverage of Boris and Carrie getting off a plane with two ghosts

MayBee70 Sat 22-Oct-22 13:01:09

silverlining48

For those who are unhappy about the potential return of Boris Trumpty why not email your MP.
They are receiving a lot of mail on the subject and will let them know not everyone sees this possible return as a good thing. Au contrair mon ami!
Very easy to find email addresses online.

We email our MP about everything. Last reply was telling us how good a job Truss was doing. This was received a day or so before her resignation. We have a special drawer for them.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 22-Oct-22 15:23:04

Like you annsixty I am full of rage to think we may have to tolerate such an apology for a human.

I fervently hope that the sane side of the Tory party refuse to work with Johnson.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 22-Oct-22 15:23:56

MayBee70

silverlining48

For those who are unhappy about the potential return of Boris Trumpty why not email your MP.
They are receiving a lot of mail on the subject and will let them know not everyone sees this possible return as a good thing. Au contrair mon ami!
Very easy to find email addresses online.

We email our MP about everything. Last reply was telling us how good a job Truss was doing. This was received a day or so before her resignation. We have a special drawer for them.

?

Callistemon21 Sat 22-Oct-22 15:46:18

Whitewavemark2

I am as sure as I can be (so not very?) that Johnson won’t get the leadership.

If he does there will be absolute chaos in the Tory party.

It is going to be bad enough with Sunak who is loathed by a large amount of Tory MPs

I'm daren't comment as I distinctly remember predicting that he would never become Prime Minister.

Prentice Sat 22-Oct-22 16:28:51

JaneJudge

I notice the daily mail have coverage of Boris and Carrie getting off a plane with two ghosts

That sounds interesting JaneJudge is it Halloween already?
grin